BC Hydro/Fortis BC Smart Meters

[Walking Wounded]

Guidance to the websites below was given to me by a person who worked on the D.E.W. Lines in the early '50's, Lougheed and JPL for the Mariner Spacecrafts in the early to mid 60's, and went on to opening his own electronic manufacturing company in the late 60's, and still in business today...his knowledge and expertise far outweighs a trade ticketed "professional"...

Don't think Smart Meters "snoop'? This website is from Ontario...

http://www.energy.gov.on.ca/en/smart-me ... ou-prices/

Think everything in the air is safe? Check out this one...

http://arcticcircle.uconn.edu/VirtualCl ... P/acf.html

I just read the link from Ontario, where does it mention anything about a smart meter snooping? All it can do is tell when you are using electricity, not what you are using or anything else. What the heck do you think electricity meters are there for? The only difference is with smart meters is they can tell when you are using it.

[NOTYOU]

I just read the link from Ontario, where does it mention anything about a smart meter snooping? All it can do is tell when you are using electricity, not what you are using or anything else. What the heck do you think electricity meters are there for? The only difference is with smart meters is they can tell when you are using it.

Snooping or whatever you want to call it...the next step in to increase the cost of electricity during "peak hours"...they monitor the consumption and find out when the most power is being used throughout the day and during those time periods of useage the costs go up. All that is, is a money grab. The next thing will be natural gas companies installing Smart Meters and following suit...

But this is getting off the main topic...which is Smart Meters are a definite health concern...do we all sit and wait for "Health Canada" to state this or do we try to provide awareness to the dangers and step up and voice our concerns?

[vinnied]

I dont know, but my existing meter is very very old. it has never been replaced since it was installed in 73. Now this has me a little concerned.

[Kalvin K]

Health Canada the organization that consists of teams of scientists...the same ones who give approval to prescribed drugs...how many drugs have been pulled because the proper testing was not completed and using said drugs resulted in death? They definitely have my vote of confidence...

As for my "qualified friend" he has more knowledge and expertise than a ticked 'professional", this I know for a fact, because my "qualified friend" is my father...

My point is that your qualified friend is not a doctor. It's a doctor (a specialist really) who needs to study this and know the impact on humans. Not someone in the electronics industry. Or is your father also a doctor who has actually studied the effects in a controlled environment? I should mention that this has been studied - numerous times by numerous doctors. None have found any harm at the levels we're talking about.

Nobody is perfect - including Health Canada. We're all humans. Health Canada knows perfectly well that they'll have to recall some drugs - it's a part of the business. The true and final test of any technology is unleashing it on the masses (before you go there - this has already been done with wireless technology via a multitude of different products). Recalling drugs with unpredicted side effects is part of the business. It's not just Health Canada that this happens to - it's the whole world. It's the same reason we receive vehicle recalls, etc. Rarely does Health Canada approve a drug that hasn't also been approved by FDA. Are you really trying to say that all of these scientists are inept and your father is correct even tho this is outside of his field of study/expertise? You'll notice I said they are far more qualified - I didn't say they were perfect.

How does your father explain a lack of disease associated with cell phones? Millions of cell phones have been in use for over a decade now. Still no evidence of harm despite many studies to that effect. Yet somehow smart meters are going to cause health problems despite the fact that the EMR exposure from the meter will be orders or magnitude smaller than that of a cell phone.

[NOTYOU]

Pick one...anyone...

http://www.emfsolutions.ca/?gclid=CMrPz ... fgodDT0AKw

http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meter ... omplaints/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/smart-mete ... n-exposure

http://www.smartmeterdangers.org/

http://www.earthcalm.com/emf-dangers-2/ ... dangerous/

http://www.theoaklandpress.com/opinion/ ... alth-risks

http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/category/health-effects/

http://stopsmartmeters.com.au/health-researchsafety/

http://kfor.com/2013/07/23/customers-sa ... them-sick/

http://www.electricalpollution.com/smartmeters.html

http://www.earthcalm.com/emf-dangers-2/ ... dangerous/


http://www.globalresearch.ca/occupy-you ... on/5338198

[damama55]

You did a great job of finding all these sites. Thank you. Maybe this will prove to be enough proof, but, for some, I doubt it. Thanks for sharing all the info sites you found. :)

[NOTYOU]

You did a great job of finding all these sites. Thank you. Maybe this will prove to be enough proof, but, for some, I doubt it. Thanks for sharing all the info sites you found. :)

You are very welcome...like you said, I doubt this will satisfy those who are not ready to admit there is a definite concern...
Looking into purchasing a meter for the readings...wonder what a MHP electrical shed will show in the way of readings...there are a number meters grouped in these sheds, all emitting "EMR waves"...would not be surprised if residents living beside these electrical sheds have had unexplained illnesses, etc...

[damama55]

When you do, please, let us know. Perhaps your actual readings that you find, will help the doubters. I know my friends and I are letting everyone we know to be wary of the EMFs. Most of them have been unaware of the risks involved. However, we shall persevere. All we can do is try to let people become aware, as I am sure you are trying to do, too.
All the best, and, thanks again. :)

[NOTYOU]

damama55...thank you once again for bringing this topic to the forefront...like the majority of individuals, I had no understanding of the extreme dangers of these meters until I read your posting and began looking further into the health concerns related to these. I have heard citizens voicing concerns over Cell Towers being erected in their neighbourhoods, but like most, I thought this did not immediately effect me, so I won't waste any of my time or energy worrying about it...below is an article published last Thursday regarding a Class - Action - Lawsuit being launched against BC Hydro and there is another Class - Action - Lawsuit being launched in California, both with regard to Smart Meters...


The Canadian Press
Published Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:37AM PST
Last Updated Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:02AM PST
VANCOUVER - Opponents of BC Hydro's smart meters are going commercial in their fight against the wireless transmitters.

The group Citizens for Safe Technology says it has filed an expanded class-action lawsuit against BC Hydro, in hopes of adding Hydro's commercial account holders to the case that currently includes only residential customers.

The group alleges Hydro's commercial customers face discrimination because they are not included in opt-out provisions offered to residential customers who have refused smart meters over concerns the devices invade privacy or create health risks through constant emission of microwave radiation.

Related Stories
B.C. group takes BC Hydro to court over smart meters Don't want a BC Hydro smart meter? Opting out will cost you BC Hydro to charge smart meter resisters $35 a month An organic farmer in Peachland, B.C., has become the representative plaintiff for commercial customers interested in joining the drive to certify the lawsuit against the power provider.

BC Hydro stands by its smart meter program saying it will make the province's energy grid more efficient, sustainable and better able to respond to outages, and the B.C. Utilities Commission and B.C. Court of Appeal have denied an effort in the past to force Hydro to stop installing smart meters.

A judge must still approve the class-action application before deciding if the group's legal action will be allowed to proceed



Read more: http://bc.ctvnews.ca/smart-meter-critic ... z2lhbnNn3t

Here is another article

Mobile, Alabama
Home ‣ Alabama ‣ Mobile

Clay RossiAttorney • (800) 574-4332Are Smart Meters Safe Meters?
Posted by Clay Rossi
November 12, 2013 2:04 PM
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They are called smart meters. In essence, a smart meter is an electronic utility meter which sends wireless (RF) data transmissions in order to save utility companies the costs of using human meter readers. While cost effective for power, water, and natural gas providers, there is anecdotal evidence emerging that some people are suffering adverse health effects from this technology. Some of the alleged symptoms include “agitation, dizziness, fatigue, forgetfulness, headaches, interrupted sleep, leg cramps, ringing in the ears, and skin rashes.” Additionally, an upcoming documentary purports to show observable physiological effects from the smart meter’s RF signals. A simple YouTube search with show that many grass roots activists have assembled evidence which speaks to the potential dilatory health effects of the smart meters. The PBS Newshour has also addressed the subject.

In the wake of these concerns the Public Utility Commission of Texas has recently released plans for an opt-out program for consumers who don’t want the smart meters on their homes. But Texans opting-out will have to pay not only a one-time fee but also a recurring monthly fee to avoid this potential danger to their health. Of course the Texas opt-out program is preferable to what happened earlier this year in Naperville, Illinois where two mothers were arrested for attempting to resist the forced installation of a smart meter.

If the potential health effects of the smart meters weren’t bad enough, the Boston Globe noted that there are also privacy concerns as the smart meters collect usage data from customers which could surreptitiously be sold by the utilities for profit. National Geographic has reported that the European Union’s watchdog group has fear that the smart meters can be used to detect if residents “are away on holiday or at work, if someone uses a specific medical device or a baby-monitor, how they like to spend their free time and so on.” Additionally, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has formulated a report which states that as smart meters “collect more granular, detailed, and potentially personal information, this information may reveal business activities, manufacturing procedures, and personal activities in a given location.”

Smart meters are quickly becoming the subject of legal actions on a number of fronts. At least one mass tort lawsuit has been filed over the health effects of smart meters in California.(The complaint can be found here.) Another class action in Texas alleged the smart meters have been used to fraudulently inflate utility bills in low-income areas. In North Bend, Washington, an electrical engineer and his wife have sued for invasion of privacy regarding the smart meters’ data collection capabilities. And finally, smart meter law suit is also underway in Canada against Vancouver power provider BC Hydro.

Given the situation, it is important for not only the general public but for attorneys to monitor what develops on the issue of smart meters

[NOTYOU]

oops...forgot to include the link to the article from Mobile Alabama...here it is...

http://mobile.legalexaminer.com/defecti ... fe-meters/

[damama55]

Just heard on the news that Hydro is cash strapped and the rates are going to HAVE to go up. Whoa to poor them. Are our pensions going up? Are we going to get a break of any kind? They have to recoup the money they have put out for the unsafe Smart Meters, and we HAVE to pay. Over $930 million to install these things when there is nooooo need for them. One good thing, it is not going to be a 25% increase like they wanted. Guess we should be thankful, eh? Grrrrrr ! !
Getting a read on smart meters | Focus Online
www.focusonline.ca/?q=node/260‎
And Blatherwick's flip-flop aptly shows why research-armed protesters have been ... The BC Hydro “Business Case” argues smart meters' $930 million cost will .... think installing smart meters was the save-us-all environmental equivalent of the ...
Wonder what the costs in the long run of health costs because of this equipment. How long before they admit that they were wrong and then millions of dollars have to be spent to take them all out and apologies will have to be made. Yes, I guess I am dreaming, eh?? Well, the future will tell.

[Fancy]

If you are going to ignore the BC forum link I posted earlier, at least post links that have facts instead of someone's blogs.

[damama55]

(Watch ex-CIA chief call "smart" grid "really, really stupid": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAid1bS8t9U.)

[NotNorthAnymore]

If you really want to see what your power is doing this article showed up today.


[url] http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... 68?cmp=rss
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Not sure why I can not get the link live, but it is a CBC news article.
Just copy and paste to get there.
NNA

[damama55]

The Liberals lied again, and maybe the gadget that is talked about on that link, might be able to tell us why some of us are paying so high bills to Hydro.