Pot posession charges 88% increase in BC

[keith1612]

Bang on, Smurf. How much do they cost their employers in lost productivity as they stare blankly at their work, with fried out brains from a puff-fest the night before?

Maybe Jenny is ready to pay for that lost productivity that hammers a company's bottom line, if she gets her way with the laws?

Maybe pot somkers should be paid less than abstainers, as the pot smokers are unable to be as productive with their impaired decision-making abilities and their short term memory loss? Is it worth it to you, Jenny, to compensate employers who lose money on brain-fried employees?

thats like trying to say alcohol producers should start paying companies because the odd person drinks on lunch breaks.
there is no big issue in canada with stoned weed smokers at work.
i would be more concerned with people popping doctor prescribed oxy's and crap on the job site.

[Rwede]

Isn't it funny that, that also describes the majority of impaired drivers. Wonder how many of these people you describe drive impaired.

fine thats a different law and they can be charged for it.
many are smart and obey the driving laws also.

Last time I saw a doper hail a cab because he just smoked a joint: ummm...NEVER!

[keith1612]

Last time I saw a doper hail a cab because he just smoked a joint: ummm...NEVER!

lmao yes because you wouldnt have a clue who is doing it i would bet.
obviously you havent had much interaction with general pot smokers.
i dont smoke it myself but 90% of my friends are casual smokers, i have seen many take cabs as generally they have a few beer also.
so now the reason to keep weed outlawed is because they may drive?
thats the same as asking for prohibition be returned is it not.
there are driving and workplace laws that can be used for both your cases.

[Rwede]

No issue? Well, Canada's rate of drug use is higher than the US, so put these findings in context:


Workplace Drug Use Statistics


32% of workers stated a co-workers drug/alcohol use affected their job performance. When an employee is impaired on the job, the company has not only lost one productive employee, but in fact has dramatically reduced the productivity of all the other workers who they interact with. Drug use in the workplace has a ripple effect. Not only is productivity reduced, but company morale is negatively impacted, causing good employees to leave the company to avoid drug impaired co-workers. [/b


[b]Impact of employee drug use: Workers who reported current illicit drug use were more likely to have worked for three or more employers in the past year and to have higher rates of unexcused absence and voluntary turnover in the past year than those who did not report drug use.

[Rwede]

i dont smoke it myself

That's why you got busted selling it then?

[keith1612]

i dont smoke it myself

That's why you got busted selling it then?

i never once said i was busted selling pot did i?
never have i been convicted of selling a drug in my life.

[Rwede]

i never once said i was busted selling pot did i?
never have i been convicted of selling a drug in my life.

One of you (yeti or you) did. Sorry if it was him and not you.

Yes, it was yeti. My mistake keith.

[keith1612]

i never once said i was busted selling pot did i?
never have i been convicted of selling a drug in my life.

One of you (yeti or you) did. Sorry if it was him and not you.

Yes, it was yeti. My mistake keith.

i would not be ashamed to say i smoke pot, i did as a teenager many many years ago.
i found it just made me hungry and well tired myself.
some it doesnt do that to.
are drugs good . no.
but i dont believe its society's place to say if a person should smoke something as harmless.
if you are driving we have laws in place.
if its effecting your work we have workplace laws that you can be dismissed.

[Rwede]

Workplace laws don't help the employer one bit when dealing with drug use. In fact, workplace laws force employers to "accomodate" a dope-head by coddling him because of his drug dependency. The laws saddle employers with these slugs, and all employees suffer because of it, by having to work harder to make up for the dopers.

Also, the dopers are far more likely to cause workplace accidents that can harm or kill their coworkers. Too many years of socialist governments in this province have screwed over the employer in dealing with these people.

[keith1612]

Workplace laws don't help the employer one bit when dealing with drug use. In fact, workplace laws force employers to "accomodate" a dope-head by coddling him because of his drug dependency. The laws saddle employers with these slugs, and all employees suffer because of it, by having to work harder to make up for the dopers.

Also, the dopers are far more likely to cause workplace accidents that can harm or kill their coworkers. Too many years of socialist governments in this province have screwed over the employer in dealing with these people.

i have heard of heroin addicts and oxy freaks getting support over employers.
pot smokers who you say are lazy and forgetful and poor on work production would be simple to fire.
dont use weed as the excuse just poor work.
unless you work for a company like CN etc that screens you for a accident there would be no way to verify if the poor employee was a weed burnout or just plain stupid.
i would say thats company error in the first place for not being able to do a proper background check and interview.
as you posted above druggies supposedly go through multiple jobs so the resume should be a first hint.
i know many many weed smokers that hold govt and non govt union positions in vernon and have so for years with no issues or problems at all.
they show up as regular as non smokers, or you get fired eventually.
i have seen non smokers use up every sick day as fast as they accumulate them.
you are also assuming all smokers are chronic users that just sit and bake all day or night.
many are casual that get off work and smoke 1 joint watching tv after dinner.
you are steriotyping all drug users casual or chronic into the same group and clumping weed users in with hard core drug users.
most people are starting to drop that old school mentality as its out to lunch.
strange doctors,lawyers,mayors etc are all starting to recommend legalizing recreation casual use and a few dinosaurs still think its a gateway drug that leads to a life of sin living in the gutter.
stop worrying about what others do that doesnt effect you.

[WhatThe]

Workplace laws don't help the employer one bit when dealing with drug use. In fact, workplace laws force employers to "accomodate" a dope-head by coddling him because of his drug dependency. The laws saddle employers with these slugs, and all employees suffer because of it, by having to work harder to make up for the dopers.

Also, the dopers are far more likely to cause workplace accidents that can harm or kill their coworkers. Too many years of socialist governments in this province have screwed over the employer in dealing with these people.

Are you seriously and honestly trying to distinguish what is drug use and what isn't? Productivity into this ? Man youre misinformed and ridiculously biased.

[WhatThe]

Workplace laws don't help the employer one bit when dealing with drug use. In fact, workplace laws force employers to "accomodate" a dope-head by coddling him because of his drug dependency. The laws saddle employers with these slugs, and all employees suffer because of it, by having to work harder to make up for the dopers.

Also, the dopers are far more likely to cause workplace accidents that can harm or kill their coworkers. Too many years of socialist governments in this province have screwed over the employer in dealing with these people.

Are you seriously and honestly trying to distinguish what is drug use and what isn't? Productivity into this ? Man youre misinformed and ridiculously biased.

[Rwede]

Workplace laws don't help the employer one bit when dealing with drug use. In fact, workplace laws force employers to "accomodate" a dope-head by coddling him because of his drug dependency. The laws saddle employers with these slugs, and all employees suffer because of it, by having to work harder to make up for the dopers.

Also, the dopers are far more likely to cause workplace accidents that can harm or kill their coworkers. Too many years of socialist governments in this province have screwed over the employer in dealing with these people.

Are you seriously and honestly trying to distinguish what is drug use and what isn't? Productivity into this ? Man youre misinformed and ridiculously biased.

Obviously, you failed to read the statistics on this:

32% of workers stated a co-workers drug/alcohol use affected their job performance. When an employee is impaired on the job, the company has not only lost one productive employee, but in fact has dramatically reduced the productivity of all the other workers who they interact with. Drug use in the workplace has a ripple effect. Not only is productivity reduced, but company morale is negatively impacted, causing good employees to leave the company to avoid drug impaired co-workers.

Impact of employee drug use: Workers who reported current illicit drug use were more likely to have worked for three or more employers in the past year and to have higher rates of unexcused absence and voluntary turnover in the past year than those who did not report drug use.

[keith1612]

Obviously, you failed to read the statistics on this:

32% of workers stated a co-workers drug/alcohol use affected their job performance. When an employee is impaired on the job, the company has not only lost one productive employee, but in fact has dramatically reduced the productivity of all the other workers who they interact with. Drug use in the workplace has a ripple effect. Not only is productivity reduced, but company morale is negatively impacted, causing good employees to leave the company to avoid drug impaired co-workers.

Impact of employee drug use: Workers who reported current illicit drug use were more likely to have worked for three or more employers in the past year and to have higher rates of unexcused absence and voluntary turnover in the past year than those who did not report drug use.

first off that statistic doesnt identify a drug type or if in fact its alcohol thats driving the percent up.
second that stat doesnt say who took it, for all we know it was some church group asking people as they entered walmart.
there is alot more to proper statistics i would think than what you posted.

[WhatThe]

Obviously, you failed to read the statistics on this:

32% of workers stated a co-workers drug/alcohol use affected their job performance. When an employee is impaired on the job, the company has not only lost one productive employee, but in fact has dramatically reduced the productivity of all the other workers who they interact with. Drug use in the workplace has a ripple effect. Not only is productivity reduced, but company morale is negatively impacted, causing good employees to leave the company to avoid drug impaired co-workers.

Impact of employee drug use: Workers who reported current illicit drug use were more likely to have worked for three or more employers in the past year and to have higher rates of unexcused absence and voluntary turnover in the past year than those who did not report drug use.

Yes I read that a third of employees "thought" something they couldn't really substantiate. If you want to use anecdotal "evidence", most people I know called in sick from hangovers and were just lazy.