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great news that since this oil stays on the top of water that they dont need any plan to clean up the oil on the bottom.... i guess that since they dont know about tides. and when the tide is out the miles of exposed beaches will just clean themselves out because of all thier 20 20 forsight... well this takes the cake!!!!!!!! boy these guys are really on top of their game...however the one they are representing is from an alberta person who has never seen a low tide....hes probley got a grade 6 education to back it up. however his dad owns millions of oil stocks. this is the stupidest thing ive ever read about oil spills. please guve us the idiots name who conjured this up.. if he works for the canadian govt fire him and the rest of his cronies. BC wont believe BS like this. maybe they might believe it in alberta and saskatchewan but dont eat that thats not chocalot they are handing you ... thats right its you know what doo doo

you lost me!

He is referring to this article.



Northern Gateway experts

by The Canadian Press - Story: 87040
Feb 6, 2013 / 7:53 pm


The diluted bitumen that will flow from the Alberta oil sands to a British Columbia tanker port would not sink in the event of a marine oil spill, contrary to claims made by opponents, say experts behind the Northern Gateway Pipeline project.

As such, the marine oil-spill response plan, which the company points out it has taken on voluntarily, above and beyond Canadian regulations, does not need and does not include measures to remove oil from the ocean floor, a regulatory review panel heard Wednesday.

That panel is currently examining the project's marine oil-spill plans.

"I don't know if it's possible to drive a stake through the heart of this concept of sinking oil, but every one of these liquids that we're talking about is no different from any other liquid we have on Earth," said Al Maki, one of 10 experts answering questions under oath this week.

Experience and lab tests show diluted bitumen weighs less than water, Maki said.

"It is an immutable fact of physics that they will float. They simply cannot sink in water."

That claim brought lawyers representing six First Nations and environmental groups to their feet to dispute the statement and demand a copy of the report cited by the company.

There is no scientific consensus on the behaviour of diluted bitumen in a real-life spill situation.

Documents obtained by The Canadian Press under access to information last summer included a request from the head of the Fisheries and Oceans' Offshore Oil, Gas and Energy Research section for further study, a request that appears to have been denied.

Chris Jones, the lawyer questioning the company experts on behalf of the B.C. government, pointed out Northern Gateway itself has committed to further research on diluted bitumen as part of its application, as well as participation on a scientific advisory committee.

"Why is all that scientific work necessary if Northern Gateway is so confident that diluted bitumen won't sink?" Jones asked.

The research and committee were recommendations of Environment Canada, consultant Owen McHugh told the panel.

"We understand that this is a contentious project and there are issues that people want explored, and we felt this was an appropriate avenue to have those issues explored, so that's why we committed to this group," he said.

waynetyea wrote:great news that since this oil stays on the top of water that they dont need any plan to clean up the oil on the bottom.... i guess that since they dont know about tides. and when the tide is out the miles of exposed beaches will just clean themselves out because of all thier 20 20 forsight... well this takes the cake!!!!!!!! boy these guys are really on top of their game...however the one they are representing is from an alberta person who has never seen a low tide....hes probaley got a grade 6 edumacation to back it up. however his dad owns millions of oil stocks. this is the stupidest thing ive ever read about oil spills. please guve us the idiots name who conjured this up.. if he works for the canadian govt fire him and the rest of his cronies. BC wont believe BS like this. maybe they might believe it in alberta and saskatchewan but dont eat that thats not chocalot they are handing you ... thats right its you know what doo doo

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/bitumen-dispute-at ... z2KWMKgY1k


Enbrigde lies a lot. Are you surprised ? First they said we will build the NG pipeline, state of the art construction. With their track records ( 804 spills in the last 10 years ) obviously people complained. Then they said " Ok we will had another layer to the pipeline to make it safer ". If it was state of the art in the first place why do you have to add another layer ? Why not make it safer in the first place with that extra layer?
Now the so called Enbrigde experts says that bitumen doesn't sink to the bottom of the ocean. Do you believe them ?

This is how they clean their oil spill..
http://vimeo.com/22067803

I'm all for the pipeline. I'm also an Enbridge shareholder. It's a great stock to own.