Cocaine cop

[Donald G]

Whatever did or did not take place regarding the cocaine cop has been identified and dealt with by the courts and RCMP Code of Conduct tribunal. Like a dead horse it serves no further purpose in life ... except perhaps for the carrion and vultures to feed upon.

[butcher99]

Whatever did or did not take place regarding the cocaine cop has been identified and dealt with by the courts and RCMP Code of Conduct tribunal. Like a dead horse it serves no further purpose in life ... except perhaps for the carrion and vultures to feed upon.

Yes, but it was dealt with very poorly. THAT is the problem. The man walked for what for anyone else would have been a multi year sentence. He did steal from an evidence locker. He was the man in charge of that locker. In a years time his sentence will be exactly nothing as it will disappear from the books.
If that was you do you think you would be out walking around with no recriminations except for a bit of community service?

[Donald G]

To butcher99...

That is certainly the opinion of a number of persons who have commented to that effect. But I think there comes a point where we realize we can not change what has already been done by those in authority and there is nothing further to be learned from what took place.

Once a horse is dead, continuing to flog him will not cause him to move any faster or further.

[melscarandtruckrental]

Geez What planet are some of you guys from? No one including this cop gets their record cleared unless they apply for and are granted a pardon. That option is open to every citizen of Canada including cops
As far as any citizen getting a multi year sentence for this crime it would be pretty tough for the average joe to steal from a police evidence locker, don't you think that aside when was the last time you heard of an average citizen get a multi year sentence for theft or breach of trust, especially in Canada. It just don't happen here.

[diggerdick]

proven repeated thefts for years from two evidence lockers, merit and clearwater as head of the detachments should have massive criminal charges involved . the rcmP DO NOT have a HIGHER STANDARD

[Donald G]

To diggerdick ...

Since the RCMP only investigated the crime and made the presiding judge aware of the known circumstances I am not sure why you would criticize the RCMP for the sentence handed down? Or what it has to do with the RCMP "not having higher standards". Higher standards than who or what? Given the circumstances, what more did you expect the RCMP to do?

[melscarandtruckrental]

To diggerdick ...

Since the RCMP only investigated the crime and made the presiding judge aware of the known circumstances I am not sure why you would criticize the RCMP for the sentence handed down? Or what it has to do with the RCMP "not having higher standards". Higher standards than who or what? Given the circumstances, what more did you expect the RCMP to do?

Probably crucifiction or maybe a good ole public flogging?

[Donald G]

To melscarandtruckrental ...

You have to understand that some of the people commenting have no interest in what the know facts of the case are; only in taking the opportunity to criticize the police regardless of the evidence or lack of evidence. It is part of the dissatisfied "neatherworld" in which they live out their lives.

[diggerdick]

ok NO higher standard ,theft, drug use ,assault ok and excepted with in police forces .. even by the head of the detachments. Now the young cops know how far they can push there criminal activity and how quickly standards are corrupted.... police corruption its what the people want it will be part of their training

[butcher99]

Geez What planet are some of you guys from? No one including this cop gets their record cleared unless they apply for and are granted a pardon. That option is open to every citizen of Canada including cops
As far as any citizen getting a multi year sentence for this crime it would be pretty tough for the average joe to steal from a police evidence locker, don't you think that aside when was the last time you heard of an average citizen get a multi year sentence for theft or breach of trust, especially in Canada. It just don't happen here.

Go back and read his sentence and then look up what happens with the type of sentence he received. If his record is clean for 2 years it is like it never happened. Look it up

[butcher99]

To melscarandtruckrental ...

You have to understand that some of the people commenting have no interest in what the know facts of the case are; only in taking the opportunity to criticize the police regardless of the evidence or lack of evidence. It is part of the dissatisfied "neatherworld" in which they live out their lives.

And the rest of us are just disgusted with how lenient the sentence was.
Of course some here think the police should be given a walk on their crimes or be given the lightest sentence possible regardless of the evidence or lack thereof. It is part of the netherworld in which they exist.

[butcher99]

To diggerdick ...

Since the RCMP only investigated the crime and made the presiding judge aware of the known circumstances

So why are the RCMP investigating themselves and why are they allowed to make presentations to the judge about known circumstances. First off it should have been any police force but the RCMP investigating. It should also have been the accused lawyer making the judge aware of the circumstances, not the RCMP especially if the RCMP were the ones doing the investigation.
Do you know of other circumstances where the RCMP told the judge that he should be lenient because the person who committed the crime was under great stress? Not saying it does not happen, just that it would be very rare and in this case self serving.
BTW, I am not saying the RCMP told the judge of the circumstances about his so called circumstances. Those are your words.

[melscarandtruckrental]

So why are the RCMP investigating themselves and why are they allowed to make presentations to the judge about known circumstances. First off it should have been any police force but the RCMP investigating. It should also have been the accused lawyer making the judge aware of the circumstances, not the RCMP especially if the RCMP were the ones doing the investigation.
Do you know of other circumstances where the RCMP told the judge that he should be lenient because the person who committed the crime was under great stress? Not saying it does not happen, just that it would be very rare and in this case self serving.
BTW, I am not saying the RCMP told the judge of the circumstances about his so called circumstances. Those are your words.[/quote]


Those sentences are given to the general public as well furthermore when you hire a lawyer to represent you in court the first thing he does is tell the judge what a good upstanding citizen you were before your charge and how this is just an error in judgement as well as the reasons you did what you did.

[butcher99]

Those sentences are given to the general public as well furthermore when you hire a lawyer to represent you in court the first thing he does is tell the judge what a good upstanding citizen you were before your charge and how this is just an error in judgement as well as the reasons you did what you did.

Yes, your lawyer tells the judge what a good upstanding citizen you are and how this is so out of character. NOT THE RCMP.
When the people who suggested the charges are the ones saying their friend should be given a lenient sentence of course he is going to get one. In this case it is just far to lenient. A sentence that in 2 years will not even be on the books for theft from an evidence locker?

[Donald G]

I think one answer would suffice to respond to all of the "WHY" questions inherent in the various comments; "because that is the way the politicians, judges and lawyers have designed each part of the entire system to operate". And that is the way in which their instructions have been interpreted and carried out by those responsible for the perpetuation of each portion of the system.

If a majority of people demand that the system be changed in some way changes will eventually come about. Until then each of those criticizing the system (or what they wrongly believe to be the system) are like coyotes howling at the moon on a still cold night ... a lot of wailing is heard that seems to satisfy the emotional state of individual critic. But does not accomplish anything useful.