BC terrorism plot - entrapment?

[maryjane48]

In a left wing Criminal Court Society where all trials are conducted on a theoretical basis, with inter and intra judicial communications accordingly, it is always the police officers who are on trial and truth and justice are bystanders in the process.
Law School 101.

lol yes the more theocratical the better , just like shooting a teenager on a streetcar gets you a trip to jail eh donald

[Smurf]

Hey I will go with the police that tell the truth, admit what they have done and don't screw up the ending. But if what you say is true it shows the possibilities if these kind of people have the proper help. Good on the RCMP for doing it right. They got the conviction hopefully they can get a sentencing of some kind that will work out for everyone. I would hate to see a repeat offender with actual results.

[Donald G]

by maryjane48 » Feb 10th, 2016, 8:02 pm

lol yes the more theocratical the better , just like shooting a teenager on a streetcar gets you a trip to jail eh donald

To which theocratic government were you referring ??

Do you honestly believe that the RCMP police any theocratic country, city or district ??

noun, plural theocracies.
1. a form of government in which God or a deity is recognized as the supreme civil ruler, the God's or deity's laws being interpreted by the ecclesiastical authorities.
2. a system of government by priests claiming a divine commission.
3. a commonwealth or state under such a form or system of government.

[Atomoa]

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... htm#159546

The RCMP spent just over $900,000 in overtime pay over the course of a five-month undercover operation that led to the arrests of two terrorism suspects in British Columbia.

Documents obtained by The Canadian Press through a freedom-of-information request show the Mounties paid at least 200 people, mostly police officers, $911,090.54 for overtime work during the investigation, which was code named Project Souvenir.

A million dollars in overtime. I can see why the police questioned the validity of entrapping addicts but went along with the case anyways.

Killer OT money. Cha-ching.

[Donald G]

At this point a number of police bashers continue to ignore that the duo have been found "GUILTY" of the terrorist related offenses with which they were tried. In desperation their defense lawyers have , as is very usual in such cases. attempted to put the police on trial as a means of finding a technical reason to get his already deemed guilty clients freed on technical grounds.

The high overtime that evolves from such operations comes about because, once the police have become involved, they have a moral and legal obligation to the public to keep the duo in sight at all times to insure that they do not initiate their planned terrorist acts while the police are not watching. As such they must be prepared to scramble any number of officers at any time of the day or night and juggle shifts accordingly.

The average simple murder investigation today can cost between a half million and two million dollars. With Terrorism we are potentially talking any number of murders through indiscriminate bombing.

[neroas]

And what is the status of the entrapment case?

[Donald G]

Both found guilty of the terrorism related charges laid but no decision yet on the defense appeal on the grounds that the two found guilty were entrapped by the police. Technical money maker for the lawyers who are being liberally paid at an hourly rate by the taxpayers. IMO if the police are not guilty of entrapment, as decided by the original trial judge, the defense lawyers are guilty of fraud by prolonging the various trial processes.

What other professions get to bill the taxpayers two and three times to perform the same task over and over because they did not do it right the first or second time, resulting in an appeal. Either that or they did it right and appealed on fraudulent grounds that they knew had no merit.

[Ka-El]

What other professions get to bill the taxpayers two and three times to perform the same task over and over because they did not do it right the first or second time, resulting in an appeal. Either that or they did it right and appealed on fraudulent grounds that they knew had no merit.

Apparently the police who can spend millions to entrap two hapless mentally challenged dupes resulting in an appeal because they were either to lazy, too incompetent or too unethical to conduct a proper investigation and go after real terrorists.

[FreeRights]

And I would say that anyone who would plant explosives in public intending to set them off, for religious reasons, would be a real terrorist.

[flamingfingers]

And I would say that anyone who would plant explosives in public intending to set them off, for religious reasons, would be a real terrorist.

These two, Korody and Nuttall, without the CONSIDERABLE help of the RCMP couldn't have planned, bought or planted anything - well, maybe a row of lettuce in a community garden.

This was a Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot effort to support the "War on Terrorism".

[neroas]

These two, Korody and Nuttall, without the CONSIDERABLE help of the RCMP couldn't have planned, bought or planted anything - well, maybe a row of lettuce in a community garden.

This was a Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot effort to support the "War on Terrorism".

For some reason it is difficult for some to grasp you can probably take desperate, destitute, or mentally ill and get them to do anything if you take the time and effort to lead them to do it. Not to mention if you take a look at actual plots and attacks these folks don't meet the "norm" for that in any fashion.

[Donald G]

Unread postby flamingfingers » Today, 5:28 pm

These two, Korody and Nuttall, without the CONSIDERABLE help of the RCMP couldn't have planned, bought or planted anything - well, maybe a row of lettuce in a community garden.

Unread postby neroas » Today, 6:01 pm

For some reason it is difficult for some to grasp you can probably take desperate, destitute, or mentally ill and get them to do anything if you take the time and effort to lead them to do it. Not to mention if you take a look at actual plots and attacks these folks don't meet the "norm" for that in any fashion.

Since I see nothing to remotely suggest that either of the above comments were based on the TOTAL of the evidence given at either the trial that led to them being found guilty of the terrorist related crimes or the rehashed and additional evidence given at the entrapment hearing, I have treated them as uninformed personal opinions based on an unrelated dislike for the police.

It is what it is and will eventually be what the judge decides ... or a judge three more appeals from now decides.

[Donald G]

Keep in mind that in the Canadian Criminal Court system we spend hours having theoretical discussions regarding the theoretical interpretation of our laws. Truth and justice or complete bystanders.

Reality can often produce theory but all of the theory in the world will never produce reality regarding value judgments.

[FreeRights]

Keep in mind that in the Canadian Criminal Court system we spend hours having theoretical discussions regarding the theoretical interpretation of our laws. Truth and justice or complete bystanders.

Reality can often produce theory but all of the theory in the world will never produce reality regarding value judgments.

I disagree. This is about reality - what actually happened.

Your criticisms of our court of law is usually spot on, but this time you've missed your mark.

[Donald G]

Unread postby FreeRights » 2 minutes ago

I disagree. This is about reality - what actually happened.

WADR defense have a theory that the police entrapped the two defendants, which is the whole basis of the appeal.

Defense is now in the awkward (to them) position of having to use actual real life evidence to try to prove their theory. Their submission to date, that the police entrapped the two, still contains a lot of theory as to why what the police did was entrapment.

Theories within theories by defense whereas the Crown had to use evidence from real life to prove the offense of which they were convicted.