Speed kills ... your pocketbook

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dogspoiler wrote:Hi KL3, at the accidents I have seen it seems to be the paramedics and firefighters dealing with the patients. The cops usually seem to be conducting interviews, measuring, taking pictures, writing tickets, and that sort of thing.


Did you miss the "help" part or the "bits and pieces" part of the post? While you may very well have seen paramedics and fire rescue deal with the patients. You may not realize who gets to render first aid until the paramedics or fire rescue people get there. "Patients" also indicates those who are still alive. The paramedics or fire rescue people don't help with ones that aren't. That's where the "bits and pieces" part comes in. After the photos of the bits and pieces are taken someone gets to pick them up.

I'm not attempting to over state what the police do in this regard. And I am definitely not trying to minimize the parts that the Fire and ambulance people do. I would not want their job (well sometimes maybe the fireman's job would be OK). But really, every one of those incidents is completely preventable.
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KL3-Something wrote: After the photos of the bits and pieces are taken someone gets to pick them up.



I have never even considered that before. What do you do with the bits and pieces after you pick them up?
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you would probably have to ask the person who actually picks up those pieces grandma.. such as the coroners office.
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What they do get to do, however, is help to pick up all the little bits and pieces of the people who are involved in the crashes that resulted from someone going too fast.


Are you saying that an increase of 10 kmp/h on that stretch of roadway is too much ? You think that people don't speed on it already ?

Gimme a break. I highly doubt an increase of a mere 10 kmp/h would do any thing but reduce the amount of speeders. t's obvious that particular road is engineered for speeds far greater than 50 kmp/p and there are many many more roads in the province that are as well.

While I won't jump on the "cash cow " band wagon , I won't be convinced that travelling at 50 on roads designed for 80 is going to reduce the number people "bits and pieces" you get to pick up... And it won't help with repetitive stress injuries to your ticket writing hand either .
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cutter7 wrote:you would probably have to ask the person who actually picks up those pieces grandma.. such as the coroners office.


Actually, cutter7, the coroner rarely gets their hands dirty. And they certainly don't pick anything up when it's time to clean up the scene.

And gramma, unless a particular bit forms an exhibit unto itself they are all put into the same bag as the bigger parts. So long as they can be matched up.
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ahh you must be talking about car parts eh? I am sure you play your role at an accident scene but as we all know it's not like the rcmp are bearing the brunt of all the dirty work as your original post suggested.
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so who does clean up after a highway accident ??? the tow truck drivers ??? I know if a death occurs in a building a Special Company gets called in..

and not trying to start anything but it can't be an Officer as the Kelowna Detachment called in a hazmat team to clean up the pee when that guy peed on the sign in front of the cop shop awhile back...
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cutter7 wrote:ahh you must be talking about car parts eh? I am sure you play your role at an accident scene but as we all know it's not like the rcmp are bearing the brunt of all the dirty work as your original post suggested.

Ok. You win. I won't argue with you about it. I know what goes on out there. And I know what I have had to pick up before.

You just think you know.
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not arguing officer, just questioning your initial claims of involvement that seemed grossly inflated when you consider the fact that... tow truck drivers tow away the wrecks, ambulance workers take away patients and bodies. coroners show up and do reports... firemen show up and extract victims and help cut into vehicles and clean up spills etc.

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Lets not make it personal people! Tone it down please.
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cutter7 wrote:not arguing officer, just questioning your initial claims of involvement that seemed grossly inflated when you consider the fact that... tow truck drivers tow away the wrecks, ambulance workers take away patients and bodies. coroners show up and do reports... firemen show up and extract victims and help cut into vehicles and clean up spills etc.

You can still have a cookie,,, just not the hero cookie you were looking for.


Who's looking for a hero cookie? Let's have a little look as the sentence from my post that seems you have you (and a couple others) up in arms:

What they do get to do, however, is help to pick up all the little bits and pieces of the people who are involved in the crashes that resulted from someone going too fast.


How is "help to pick up" a gross inflation?

Like i said I'm not going to argue about it.

But do me a favor next time your standing behind a paramedic in the line to get a coffee. Ask them when the last time was that they transported a body from a crash. Not a patient with signs of life. But a body that was, you know....dead. Specifically those ones with heads or lower extremities and such no longer attached.
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Unfortunate to say for the paramedics I know and grew up with the answer to that is always too many times for no other reason than driving like a complete idiot.
I was always told its more the smell than the visual. You can get used to visual but never the smell especially when there has been a fire.
Until I picked a few myself I didn't really understand the smell comment.
I do now.....

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process99 wrote:Unfortunate to say for the paramedics I know and grew up with the answer to that is always too many times for no other reason than driving like a complete idiot.
I was always told its more the smell than the visual. You can get used to visual but never the smell especially when there has been a fire.
Until I picked a few myself I didn't really understand the smell comment.
I do now.....

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My point is that Paramedics don't pick up and transport dead people. They transport those that are still alive or show signs of life and not those who have been pronounced or are obviously dead.
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I have been in a few crashes myself. Lots of my friends have been in crashes. The reason was always some idiot, who didn't know how to drive...ran a stop sign, lights, etc....but strangely enough, never speed.
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