Sensible BC

[Smurf]

People just can't leave a good thing alone. They have to ruin it for themselves and worse yet everyone else that tries to stay within the law.
Another example or should this be under entitlement.

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story--3-.htm

The non-profit group that looks after some of Canada's poorest citizens blew thousands of dollars on lavish hotels, limousine rides, expensive dinners and even a trip to a Disney resort.

Separate financial reviews examining expenses by the Portland Hotel Society -- which runs Canada's only safe-injection site -- have uncovered misuse of corporate credit cards, unsupported expenses and inadequate criminal record checks.

A B.C. government review and an external financial audit reveal what the province says are significant concerns over the practices of the society that operates numerous programs in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside

The audit detailed over $8,600 spent on limousine rides last year, a stay in a United Kingdom hotel that cost almost $900 per night, and a trip for two adults and two children to the Disney resort in Anaheim at a cost of more than $2,600.

The audit also revealed the non-profit society is in weak financial shape, is more than $130,000 into it's bank overdraft and drew $1.2 million from lines of credit and a business loan.

A joint news release from the ministries of health and housing says the board and senior managers of the society have been fired and an interim board has been appointed to oversee a restructuring of society operations.

Why can't people leave things alone. The second there is something good someone finds a way to ruin it.

[flamingfingers]

^^ Just like they did here:

http://brucealanblock.com/why-marijuana-became-legal/

[Donald G]

The exact same human characteristic is the reason that the "grow your own marijuana for personal use" was completely corrupted by those who saw the opportunity to make illegal funds available to themselves. Greed and opportunity.

It is now at the point where EVERYONES right to produce their own marijuana has been revoked as of April 1. And those most responsible are those most vociferous at blaming the governemnt. As noted on this and other marijuana threads.

[flamingfingers]

Well, well, well. Now we see the Real Reason why people can't grow their own medicine:

Health Canada: Legal Home Grows Would Harm New Marijuana Industry
19 Mar, 2014

During a court hearing on Tuesday, Health Canada lawyers argued that a ban on personal grow rights is needed to sustain the new medical marijuana industry.

A case involving the constitutional rights of medical marijuana patients was heard on Tuesday in a federal court. The plaintiffs, represented by B.C. lawyer John Conroy, were seeking an injunction on the new MMPR program, which comes into full effect on April 1.

The MMPR removes the right for patients to produce marijuana for themselves – a right that was given under the previous MMAR program.

Conroy argued that many patients would not be able to afford medical marijuana under the new program, which would violate their section 7 Charter rights by making them “choose between their liberty and their health.”

However, a lawyer representing Health Canada argued that there is no constitutional right to affordable medicine. The lawyer also argued that exempting patients from the ban on personal production would harm the new Licensed Producers, since they require a customer base to get established.

Ultimately, the judge said a decision would be announced on Friday.

Nearly 40,000 Canadians are authorized to use medical marijuana, and roughly half have an annual income of less than $30,000.

Currently, medical marijuana is being sold for $5-12 a gram. The amount prescribed per patient varies, with some taking upwards of 10 grams a day.

Some companies have offered to provide discounts for low-income patients. For example, Mettrum said on Monday that it will provide a 30% discount on the first 30 grams purchased each month, for patients with an annual income below $30,000.

A total of 12 Licensed Producers have been approved by Health Canada so far. But Mettrum is one of only 3 with product available for sale, which has caused some concern over a possible supply shortage.

Last week, Health Canada revealed an amendment to the MMPR rules requiring patients of the old program to provide written notice that they have destroyed any marijuana obtained under the MMAR.

Health Canada also warned that law enforcement would be notified if an individual failed to provide written notice before April 30.

http://www.leafscience.com/2014/03/19/l ... th-canada/

[Donald G]

It is unfortunate that lawyers in court seem to want to or have to use extremes to support their position. Like 30 grams of normal or high THC marijuana per day. That is so far above the 1 to 3 grams per day average of all countries where marijuana is available for medical or recreational purposes as to be questionable without further explanantion. Oil? If so IMO it should be identified in its own right and not as the quantity of driy marijuana required to make oil.

Health Canada having to or choosing to modify their position again does not bode well for a smooth transistion. IMO they seem to suffer from both a lack of required knowledge and organizational ability.

[flamingfingers]

The lawyer also argued that exempting patients from the ban on personal production would harm the new Licensed Producers, since they require a customer base to get established.

Oh my! We CANNOT have corporate interests harmed in any way, shape or form, can we?

But it is quite ok to harm the sick, old, poor, pain-ridden and disabled!!! Good lord!!

[flamingfingers]

Good!!

All National News

at 15:28 on March 21, 2014, EDT.

The Canadian Press

VANCOUVER - A Federal Court has granted an application to allow patients who use medical marijuana to continue to grow their own pot despite imminent changes to the law.

A group of patients asked the court for a temporary injunction while take the federal government to court over the new regulations, which restrict medical marijuana production to licenced commercial producers.

The changes are part of a major overhaul of Canada's medical marijuana system, which has allowed licenced patients to grow their own pot since 2001.

The patients told the court earlier this week that some of them won't be able to afford marijuana under the new system and they won't be able to obtain the strains that work best for them.

The federal government says the potential risks related to grow-ops, such as fires, mould and crime, outweigh the patients' rights to grow their own.

A full trial on the patients challenge is expected to be scheduled within the next year.

[Donald G]

To flamingfingers ...

If you insist on continuing to describe one tiny aspect inherent in the marijuana availability system isolated from the rest you will never be in a position to see the larger picture. It reminds me of the saying "a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing". OMO that and outright lying is what caused Sensible BC to fail to gain 50% of the vote when, in reality, some samples indicate that over 75% of the Canadian voting public is in favor of further medicalizing marijuana and around 50% of Canadians favor the CONTROLLED legalization of small, personal amounts of marijuana for daily stress reduction purposes. That is said bearing in mind that the average Canadian has a very limited knowledge of the actual strengths and weakness of the various compounds contained in the various strains of marijuana.

Sensible BC tried to dictate the quantity and quality of marijuana that should be decriminalized or legalazed and got set back on their back pockets for their trouble ... and rightly so.

[flamingfingers]

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[Donald G]

Given the latest media quoted comment from flamingfingers I would be interested in what position people think will be adopted by the various factions potentially affected by the latest release as of April 1? IMO Criminals and criminal drug gangs who have been benefiting financially from the "grow your own system or farm it out" will be clapping there hands when they realize the "profit" door has not been totally closed. Especially those 100, 200 and 400 plant "personal orchards" identified by Bman 'et al'.

[Donald G]

To flamingfingers ...

It seems that you expect the truth to change to fit the situation? That is IMO quite evident from your "selective" knowledge as to what the theoretical truth is at any given time in spite of the constant reality by which society actually operates.

LSUFI

[flamingfingers]

LSFUI????????????
Is that a code you used when dealing with 'criminal gangs' that you dealt with decades ago?