Beaten up Abbotsford student asks why police weren't called

[flamingfingers]

Regardless of what was used to beat on this poor lad, the police definitely should have been called to deal with this vicious assault. If it were my kid that was assaulted in such a manner I would be demanding answers from the school as well!

Assault leaving a kid with injuries is NOT an instance where 'the school' can conduct their own investigation. Name calling and verbal bullying is a realm in which the school can take action but NOT a vicious assault - especially where an instrument such as a baton, bat, broom, or even closed fists that cause injury is concerned.

[Donald G]

There is no excuse for the school NOT to have called the police. Whether the oversight was a result of people in authority not wanting to get involved or attempting to avoid bad publicity for the school is of no importance. A serious criminal act was committed in the school during school hours and someone in the school system CHOSE NOT to notify the proper authorities. That is completely irresponsible on the part of the teachers involved.

[flamingfingers]

Dave Stephen, spokesman with the Abbotsford School District, says the police liaison office was called once administrators were able to sort out what had happened, adding that the two boys believed to be behind the attack will be suspended.

Why did 'the administrators' take time to 'sort out what happened'? A kid is bleeding from an assault and 'the administrators' took it upon themselves to 'sort out what happened'?? Who in the )*^* do they the 'administrators' think they are anyway?!!

[omisimaw]

Don't for an instance think they could have figured this out in a heartbeat! Not their job to figure anything out when there is this severe of a beating

[FreeRights]

Anything can be identified in criminal court as an offensive weapon providing it is USED as a weapon ... including a willow branch. a car, a chair, a plastic spoon and/or a lawn mower. The key is that it is USED as a weapon to inflict or try to inflict harm on another person. It would be impossible to have all such articles listed as prohibited weapons since it is the manner in which it is used rather than the article itself that determines how the article is viewed by the court.

You're correct that any item can be viewed as a weapon in court, but there's a difference between an item used as a weapon, and an item actually listed criminally as prohibited.

[omisimaw]

You're correct that any item can be viewed as a weapon in court, but there's a difference between an item used as a weapon, and an item actually listed criminally as prohibited.

What is your point?

It could have been a broken tree branch, who cares!

The point is that children are using whatever to do very serious harm, and even death, to other children.

When this happens at a school, on school property, and they do not immediately call in the cops then there is complacency taking place on the part of the adults in charge.

As a parent if this had been my child the parent(s) of the bully would be having a visit from authorities as there would be charges laid!

My child would then be moved immediately to another school and I would be having in-depth legal talks with the school for their inept and unprofessional handling of the situation and for allowing my child to be injured in such a manner on their watch.

This needs to start in elementary school when these bullies first start fluffing their feathers.... by time they reach a size and age where they grab whatever and lash out at another child in such a manner as to harm someone you know the battle has been lost, that as supposed nuturing adults you have failed miserably....

One only has to look back in our own community to see deadly results of this out of control behaviour.... one beautiful young girl dead! another who's life is by all accounts going down the drain .....

[Nom_de_Plume]

Staff at a school are not trained to deal with this type of thing, while they dither about, evidence is being lost and witnesses are becoming less reliable.
Whenever there is severe assault like this happening the cops should be called.

[omisimaw]

They have school liaison with the police. That is a direct call principal to officer. If officer is on days off is there an alternate? Budgets have cut so much out that some in the field seem to be struggling with what they should or should not do.
Does it have to come to a weapon being used! I think not....
They have to define the line and stick to it. Chastising and disciplining both the victim and the attacker has to stop. Parents have to step up to the plate and when they expect backup from the school it should be there for them.

[FreeRights]

They have school liaison with the police. That is a direct call principal to officer. If officer is on days off is there an alternate? Budgets have cut so much out that some in the field seem to be struggling with what they should or should not do.
Does it have to come to a weapon being used! I think not....
They have to define the line and stick to it. Chastising and disciplining both the victim and the attacker has to stop. Parents have to step up to the plate and when they expect backup from the school it should be there for them.

Yes. 911.

[omisimaw]

I do not see it as a 911 but a more proactive call to their contacts at the detachment to intervene BEFORE anyone gets really hurt....

[FreeRights]

I do not see it as a 911 but a more proactive call to their contacts at the detachment to intervene BEFORE anyone gets really hurt....

I agree. If this was possible, it's clearly the better route to take.

[flamingfingers]

I do not see it as a 911 but a more proactive call to their contacts at the detachment to intervene BEFORE anyone gets really hurt....

The kid was bleeding! Does that not count for being 'really hurt' as the result of an assault?? The school should have called 911 immediately and not taken it upon themselves to 'sort it out'!

[omisimaw]

I do not see it as a 911 but a more proactive call to their contacts at the detachment to intervene BEFORE anyone gets really hurt....

The kid was bleeding! Does that not count for being 'really hurt' as the result of an assault?? The school should have called 911 immediately and not taken it upon themselves to 'sort it out'!

They failed long before that decision. They should have involved the cops when they knew the incident was going to take place.

But that is in the past, it is the go forward that is important.

What lessons are to be learned by this and what changes need to be done to ensure this stops. At the moment it appears to be slipping backward.

[FreeRights]

They failed long before that decision. They should have involved the cops when they knew the incident was going to take place.

But that is in the past, it is the go forward that is important.

What lessons are to be learned by this and what changes need to be done to ensure this stops. At the moment it appears to be slipping backward.

If that was the case. If they didn't know, its hard to fault them.

[omisimaw]

See that is the thought that most people go by, or even use to get themselves off.... I did not know it was happening!

If the word is out and this type of "gathering" is taking place you can bet the word is a buzzing in the halls, bathrooms, and school yards before hand.

If social media can gather crowds of 100's of kids in less than a day and the school is not dialed in, come on!

If the school is not picking this up, but the kids are.... then hello there is a problem here!

Besides the bully has probably been in the cross hairs more than once before they go bashing a kid over the head! Administration and teachers who do not keep an eye on the person and the atmosphere around them are not keeping others safe.