Another Ridiculous Judicial Decision

[FreeRights]

To Free Rights ...

The bottom line is that you are adamant that Canadians benefited because a Major Drug Trafficker went free on a built in Criminal Court technicality that had absolutely nothing to do with guilt or innocence. And you are trying to pass off as necessary to freedom.

Typical lawyer speak for theoretical law being applied to real life situations with reprehensible results.

You and the PE Trudeau Zealots would have been completely compatible.

As for the rest of Canadians .....

To be clear, then, you are of the opinion that Charter Rights should have no impact on occurrences that are passing through the criminal justice system, correct? That is exactly the position you have taken on this issue.

[Donald G]

To FreeRights ...

Spoken like a true defence lawyer where theoretical statements calculated to completely mislead are the rule rather than the exception. In the real world many would call it lying.

There is a world of difference between honestly interpreting the evidence and intentionally trying to have the evidence thrown out or completely misinterpreted so that the otherwise guilty criminal can walk free.

All evidence that went to prove guilt or innocence used to be admitted under our former "Diefenbaker" Bill of Rights. That interpretation served society well for many years. until Trudeau the Left Wing Zealot changed it all. Most lawyers jumped on board due to the many financially lucrative "theoretical arguments" it substituted for a search for the truth and justice,

The new interpretation serves lawyers and criminals. Not the general public. That is why violent criminals and gang members are now able to "beat" the charges when their lawyers use technical grounds to have evidence thrown out.

[Donald G]

To Free Rights ...

There is absolutely no way that the legal profession can justify letting a guilty Major Drug Trafficker go free on the grounds that HIS Canadian rights were taken away from him as he knowingly hid out in another country. Lawyers are being blinded by a theory Zealot Lawyer Trudeau came up with that does not apply in the real world

[wanderingman]

To Free Rights ...

There is absolutely no way that the legal profession can justify letting a guilty Major Drug Trafficker go free on the grounds that HIS Canadian rights were taken away from him as he knowingly hid out in another country. Lawyers are being blinded by a theory Zealot Lawyer Trudeau came up with that does not apply in the real world

Donald I would never bother to waste my time with people as misguided as "Freerights" and zealots like him
you of course are 100% correct in your posts

[Donald G]

To Wanderingman ...

Unfortunately it is exactly the type of thinking expressed by Zealot Freerights that has invaded and taken over our Canadan Criminal Court System.

Due to the amount of crime, including rape and murder, committed by violent criminals and criminal drug gangs after being let off on a technicality by judges, it borders on a Crime Against Humanity being foisted on society by lawyers and judges.

How many innocent Canadians will have to pay the price before lawyers, who changed the system to one favouring lawyers, criminals and criminal gangs, are forced to change the system back to one protecting society and punishing the guilty?

[Donald G]

Legal theory is great in law school, but it has no place in our very real Canadian Society. Any more than the theory of religion had in determining the guilt or innocence of witches in Salem Mass in the 1950s.

Real justice must reflect real life.

[the truth]

just another judge on the payroll

[FreeRights]

To Wanderingman ...

Unfortunately it is exactly the type of thinking expressed by Zealot Freerights that has invaded and taken over our Canadan Criminal Court System.

Due to the amount of crime, including rape and murder, committed by violent criminals and criminal drug gangs after being let off on a technicality by judges, it borders on a Crime Against Humanity being foisted on society by lawyers and judges.

How many innocent Canadians will have to pay the price before lawyers, who changed the system to one favouring lawyers, criminals and criminal gangs, are forced to change the system back to one protecting society and punishing the guilty?

While I'm not a big fan at all of being named-called due to you failing to have even a legitimate counter argument, at least get the name calling right. Zealot? Are you kidding? I actually agree with you that some of these rights and legal arguments should change. But guess what? Right now, they have not changed because people like you have done nothing to change it. And because it hasn't changed, the legal decision that was made absolutely had to be made because that's how it's written.

But no, I'm apparently a zealot for pointing out why something happens instead of blaming everyone else for it, which is all you've done this whole thread.

[bob vernon]

Instead of blaming the guy who was PM 30 years ago, why don't we blame the guy who is the PM right now? And who's done nothing to fix things?

I fully expect to be attacked and accused of "knowing nothing about Canadian history." But the question remains. Why hasn't Harper tried to fix things. He talked a lot about mandatory sentences, but left the door open for short sentences. And allowed the court backlog to grow and grow.

"It's all Trudeau's fault." Yeah, right.

[the truth]

we need more jails ,big ones, and keep all the sum off the streets forever..it could be that easy

[Donald G]

To Bob Vernon ...

1. The new Trudeau Charter is enshrined in the Constitution and thus difficult to reopen and change.

2. A politician can *NOT* tell judges how to interpret the law.

3. It is the judicial interpretation of the Charter that enables such glaring injustices to occur.

4. It was judges selected and appointed by PE Trudeau that wrote and interpreted the new Charter.

Either you did not read or did not understand my previous comment saying the same thing.

[Donald G]

To FreeRights ...

So you understand that IMO there is no insult more degrading than calling you a Criminal Court Judge or Criminal Court defence lawyer who supports the Zealot Trudeau theoretical criminal court rules of evidence arising from the extreme left wing rewriting and reinterpretation of the Canadian Bill of Rights aka Charter? Good.

The completely rewritten Trudeau Bill of Rights and its criminal law interpretation is allowing guilty murderers, rapists and drug traffickers to go free on one technicality after another. And providing lawyers with many more "billable hours of taxpayer money".

The bottom line is that it helps lawyers and criminals and leaves society at risk far, far more often than the previous Diefenbaker Bill of Rights and its interpretation that served Canada and Canadians (except lawyers) very well for many years before being arbitrarily changed. For no other reason than to curb police investigative powers and make the system more lucrative for lawyers and beneficial for criminals. All in the name of Human Rights of course. An absolute mockery of the word rights.

[wanderingman]

Freerights??
your post and I quote:
the legal decision that was made absolutely had to be made because that's how it's written;
REALLY well what the so called judge said was this:
because in his opinion, the Drug Kingpin had been deprived of HIS CANADIAN constitutional rights.


show us all please where its "written" that a EIPOS can be charged with a major drug crime then escape to india for 10 years and then return to Canada and cant be tried because it violates his rights somehow?? show me this written statuate please?
you cant and this judge is a moron whom should not be judging anything but a gong show.

[FreeRights]

To FreeRights ...

So you understand that IMO there is no insult more degrading than calling you a Criminal Court Judge or Criminal Court defence lawyer who supports the Zealot Trudeau theoretical criminal court rules of evidence arising from the extreme left wing rewriting and reinterpretation of the Canadian Bill of Rights aka Charter? Good.

The completely rewritten Trudeau Bill of Rights and its criminal law interpretation is allowing guilty murderers, rapists and drug traffickers to go free on one technicality after another. And providing lawyers with many more "billable hours of taxpayer money".

The bottom line is that it helps lawyers and criminals and leaves society at risk far, far more often than the previous Diefenbaker Bill of Rights and its interpretation that served Canada and Canadians (except lawyers) very well for many years before being arbitrarily changed. For no other reason than to curb police investigative powers and make the system more lucrative for lawyers and beneficial for criminals. All in the name of Human Rights of course. An absolute mockery of the word rights.

Stop avoiding the question. You want to resort to name calling, I'm going going to call you out for what you are.

You are against certain rights for Canadian citizens facing criminal prosecution. Apparently you are the one to deem which rights are worthy and which are not, based on your matter of preference. Instead of placing blame on the prosecution for failing to do something that would have avoided this entire situation, you blame people you already hate. My suggestion is wake up, start to realize that because you don't agree with something, someone is immediately to blame even though you've made absolutely no attempt yourself to fix it, and open your worldview to stop seeing everything left vs right.

You failed at developing any argument whatsoever that presents any evidence toward blaming the judge or blaming the defense lawyers. The only player who failed to act, forcing this situation to occur, was the prosecution. Nice try though.

[FreeRights]

Freerights??
your post and I quote:
the legal decision that was made absolutely had to be made because that's how it's written;
REALLY well what the so called judge said was this:
because in his opinion, the Drug Kingpin had been deprived of HIS CANADIAN constitutional rights.


show us all please where its "written" that a EIPOS can be charged with a major drug crime then escape to india for 10 years and then return to Canada and cant be tried because it violates his rights somehow?? show me this written statuate please?
you cant and this judge is a moron whom should not be judging anything but a gong show.

The judge made his decision based on what is written. I'm not going to spoon feed you, many articles exist that show what justifies the judge's decision. If they are wrong, they can appeal.