RCMP sensitivities

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During a break in the case, Johnson and the prosecutor hammered out a compromise that saw the charge dropped in exchange for a peace bond, prohibiting the accused from going anywhere near his estranged spouse. But when Johnson asked the officer to escort his client back to the family home to retrieve some belongings—and the Mountie refused—the two were soon nose-to-nose in the courthouse hallway. “**** you,” Johnson said.

“You don’t scare me, you big-shot lawyer,” the Mountie allegedly replied. He then pointed to Johnson’s chest, which, by then, was close enough to be touching his. “That’s assaulting a police officer.” Moments later, the lawyer was in handcuffs.


A_Britishcolumbian wrote:psycho cop.


While the member could have acted more appropriately himself, Johnson was off his friggin' rocker that day.
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More like a lawyer with too big an ego and sense of self-worth or importance. The cop was probably on his day off and in court that day to give his evidence, or at least off shift. The cop may well have had prior dealings with this particular lawyer and as a consequence, had no use for the person. Who knows... but seems that each of the two words in the reported offensive remark were worth a little over 5 grand a piece. I love it.
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Arguing with a cop is worse than arguing with a woman. you can't win either way and rather than cry in public the cop will press charges.
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I'm not sure what the problem is that precipitated this thread, but I bet it's hard to pronounce.

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In its decision the panel said, “The profession must know that courtesy, civility, dignity and restraint should be the hallmarks of our profession and that lawyers must strive to achieve such. The profession should also know that a marked departure from such standards will be sanctioned.”

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Johnson uttered his $10,000 words and the officer approached him “nose to nose.”

According to the prosecutor, the officer said: “You don’t scare me, you big shot lawyer.” Then the officer pointed out that Johnson’s chest was touching his.

“That’s assaulting a police officer,” the officer said.

Johnson said: “You are assaulting me.”

“You haven’t seen anything until you’ve seen an RCMP (member) assaulted,” the officer said. He told Johnson he was under arrest and, grabbed his left arm, tried to spin him and pushed him against the wall. Johnson, 61, had recently had hip surgery.

A court Sheriff assisted with the arrest and Johnson was taken through the courthouse to the RCMP detachment.

The officer tried to lay charges but an independent prosecutor declined to charge Johnson with assault. The prosecutor who witnessed the events also said there was no evidence of assault and refused to make that allegation.

They said the officer’s words could be considered threats and said his action “was a serious aggravating factor... both extreme and unnecessary” however “not so aggravating or severe to excuse the conduct of (Johnson.)"

It’s unknown if the officer was disciplined by the RCMP. Calls to the Kelowna detachment were not returned before deadline.


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there is the problem i see, words by a person lead to physical assault by the rcmp member. it certainly looks like inappropriate use of force to me, but of course the secret society we call the rcmp will not tell us what they think.

the attempt of the rcmp member to bring frivilous/false charges against johnston is as troubling.
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More troubling are lawyers who are brought before their governing body and disciplined when their clients' interests should be their first priority.
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Fancy wrote:More troubling are lawyers who are brought before their governing body and disciplined when their clients' interests should be their first priority.


a lawyer should skip going before the bar association in lieu of his clients interests!?!?!?!

During a break in the case, Johnson and the prosecutor hammered out a compromise that saw the charge dropped in exchange for a peace bond, prohibiting the accused from going anywhere near his estranged spouse. But when Johnson asked the officer to escort his client back to the family home to retrieve some belongings—and the Mountie refused—the two were soon nose-to-nose in the courthouse hallway.
from the macleans article in the op.

it would seem his client's interests were very much his priority.

failure to appear before the governing body would not be in any way in his client's interest.
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A_Britishcolumbian wrote:a lawyer should skip going before the bar association in lieu of his clients interests!?!?!?!

Why would they do that? They'd be in bigger trouble. If lawyers adhered to what their job is and put their client's interests first, there'd be no need to be disciplined.
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During a break in the case, Johnson and the prosecutor hammered out a compromise that saw the charge dropped in exchange for a peace bond, prohibiting the accused from going anywhere near his estranged spouse. But when Johnson asked the officer to escort his client back to the family home to retrieve some belongings—and the Mountie refused—the two were soon nose-to-nose in the courthouse hallway.


how is it you interpret johnston's actions as 'not looking out for his clients interests'?
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A_Britishcolumbian wrote:how is it you interpret johnston's actions as 'not looking out for his clients interests'?

Please quote where I stated anything about Johnston's actions.
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