Work Safe BC

[Ken7]

http://globalnews.ca/news/2157606/chill ... orksafebc/

I saw the story of 45-year-old Taras Atleo on TV this evening. Lost both of his hands in a industrial accident. How can Work Safe treat people like this? Very sad to see, although it does not surprise me that they would do this.

I hope the story makes Worksafe buck up and provide the care this man needs.

[gman313]

http://globalnews.ca/news/2157606/chilliwack-family-fighting-for-care-from-worksafebc/

I saw the story of 45-year-old Taras Atleo on TV this evening. Lost both of his hands in a industrial accident. How can Work Safe treat people like this? Very sad to see, although it does not surprise me that they would do this.

I hope the story makes Worksafe buck up and provide the care this man needs.

I wouldn't challenge them myself. If he is in a union his union rep will help. If he is not, the Employee Advisor's office will help him.

You can appeal any worksafe decision within 90 days and their is help available.

[MAPearce]

WorkSafe BC sucks... They're worse than ICBC.

Asshats.

[NotNorthAnymore]

Work Safe BC or WCB as it says on the bottom of the forms is not about "protecting workers" but gouging any and all that happen to be in business or employ anyone.

In my case I have a home based business that has no public access to my goods sold.
Mail order distribution would be a decent description.
A number of years ago on advice of our accountant we went limited.
Tax wise it works out well.
The wife and I pull wages in order to contribute to CPP, so that when we retire in the next few years we can pull as much as possible.

WCB is now telling me that we have to register and pay them because we are a limited company and the wife and I are considered as employees because we pull wages.

Without going on for pages about this - it all boils down to a Cash Grab - Pig in a Poke - situation.
They want our money for nothing, as there is no way that we would ever be able to put in a claim and receive anything from them.

I am going to appeal the ruling that I have to pay them my hard earned money - but have my doubts that it will come to anything at this point.
Maybe in a few years.

Not a happy camper to be stuck in this Bull and have to pay out money that should go to my retirement fund.

NNA

[Hassel99]

What makes you think the fact there is no public exposure is relevant?

Worksafe covers employees not third party clients.

Why do you think you could never put in a claim, do you think it is impossible for you to be injured on the job? What If you fall down the stairs and break your neck while on the clock? What if you put your back out moving a desk or something?


let us know how the appeal goes !

[MAPearce]

Worksafe covers employees not third party clients.

I call *bleep*....

WorkSafe BC will go to any length to deny a valid claim by a worker by accepting an employers report without investigating ..

It happened to me in 2010.

[NotNorthAnymore]

I call *bleep*....

WorkSafe BC will go to any length to deny a valid claim by a worker by accepting an employers report without investigating ..

It happened to me in 2010.

I have to agree. When I worked up north in the sawmill - we had an entire committee in the union that did nothing but work on WCB appeals. WCB did everything they could to blame the worker and deny paying out claims.

Add to this that I am both the management and the worker.
I am a home based business - and everything to do with the business is inside my home.
I have an internet presence and so by extension I am available 24/7 to my customers worldwide.
So everything / anything I do by extension is covered by WCB??
I will see how that flies when I put in a claim for moving that desk from one side of the bedroom to the other.

Also by that logic from WCB - if my wife cuts herself making us lunch she will be covered by WCB since we work at home and our company policy is to supply our workers with meals at work.....

They reason that I am a shareholder so I am classed as an employee of myself - so I must pay for the "protection" that they say I must have.

(Was there not an entire industry in the 1920's to 1940's and beyond that told business owners that they had to pay for "protection"?????)

[MAPearce]

They reason that I am a shareholder so I am classed as an employee of myself - so I must pay for the "protection" that they say I must have.

But they don't and won't give you "that".. because you are a shareholder or owner....

They blow donkey balls.. straight up .

[Smurf]

When I/we owned our own business and I tore my rotator Cuff at work they covered me. I had to fight for a lot of it but I got it. Luckily I was fairly experienced at it from my union and safety years so it went quite well. If you start off right from the first day it goes pretty good, but if you give them an opening they will certainly take it. Make sure you record every little thing, with witnesses and as much information as possible. I have seen someone get infection from a small cut and end up with problems because they couldn't be bothered to record it properly at the time. If it looks like it could get expensive they will go over it with a fine tooth comb.

I have dealt with them in a few provinces and they are all pretty well the same, but some do seem to pay better than others. But the last was over a decade ago so it might well have changed. Don't go in looking for trouble. Treat them like you would the cops. Yes sir, no sir, get them what they want and it will definitely go much better.

[jimsenchuk]

You just got to learn how to play their game, i did, and won twice, once in Alberta and here in BC. Educate yourselves on their policies, read, read, read. I got a huge payout with a great pension until i am 70 yrs old, and they (Work-Safe BC) are putting 5% of my pension from their own pockets into a retirement fund for me. I get the retirement fund at 65 and no taxes. I also get my union pension and WCB does not claw back anything. I will not go into the injury i got, but it was serious on both occasions. Yes it took time, but if you play the game right, you will win. Also, get the best specialists you can, to counter their so call specialists.

[NotNorthAnymore]

You just got to learn how to play their game, i did, and won twice, once in Alberta and here in BC. Educate yourselves on their policies, read, read, read. I got a huge payout with a great pension until i am 70 yrs old, and they (Work-Safe BC) are putting 5% of my pension from their own pockets into a retirement fund for me. I get the retirement fund at 65 and no taxes. I also get my union pension and WCB does not claw back anything. I will not go into the injury i got, but it was serious on both occasions. Yes it took time, but if you play the game right, you will win. Also, get the best specialists you can, to counter their so call specialists.

Hi Jim:
That is great for you - and I very happy that you were able to get compensated for your injuries.
That is what is supposed to happen.

My case is a bit different from yours.

My wife and I are a mom and pop operation.

We went LTD for tax purposes - Now WCB says we must pay them.
If you have any success in business - they want money from you - a straight cash grab - there is no way that they are going to pay me for anything. I work out of my home and my wife draws a wage also - all above board.

WCB says we MUST pay them - at the rate they decide - and we have no way of getting out of it - according to them.

It is nothing but a cash grab against a small business. And we are not the only small home based or small mom and pop business stuck in this situation!

The Original post is a telling story - here is someone with obvious injuries and needs help and support - WCB is intent on screwing him over.

What do you think that a small business - which is the backbone of this country - is going to be able to do given the likes of the situation of the original post?

[Jflem1983]

Bump.


So these roaches have really effected me in a bad way.

They are trying to not let me purchase WCB insurance for myself. I have done nothing wrong. Not hurt. Not hurt anyone. Not looking for money. Just want a wcb number so i can do my own thing. Anyone got any advice.

[Muzza]

Worksafe covers employees not third party clients.

I call *bleep*....

WorkSafe BC will go to any length to deny a valid claim by a worker by accepting an employers report without investigating ..

It happened to me in 2010.

It took a friend of mine 15 years and thousands of dollars in legal fees!!!

[dontrump]

Worksafe covers employees not third party clients.

I call *bleep*....

WorkSafe BC will go to any length to deny a valid claim by a worker by accepting an employers report without investigating ..

It happened to me in 2010.

there NOT denying a claim here at all what they want to do Pay him $2000 more a month and have his wife etc look after him verses a private care giver paid by WCB

[seewood]

They are trying to not let me purchase WCB insurance for myself. I have done nothing wrong. Not hurt. Not hurt anyone. Not looking for money. Just want a wcb number so i can do my own thing. Anyone got any advice.

Not sure if it is still the same but get yourself incorporated, business number etc..
I was self employed and had a WCB number for years, but had to be incorporated.