What is said about Christy Clark Government

[maple leaf]

These are the things being said around BC about our government.

What they’ve been saying this year…
December 31, 2015



… About culture of the Christy Clark government
1) Our thesaurus has lots of synonyms for “dishonesty” too

“Enough of the obfuscating, weaseling, dissimulation, doubletalk, verbal subterfuge, stonewalling and other distasteful conduct that hangs like a miasma over the shameful events surrounding the precipitous firing of eight Ministry of Health researchers in 2012. The public deserves a public inquiry.”
– Editorial (Vancouver Sun), June 19, 2015

2) Just the Facts, Ms. Denham

“In the course of this investigation, we uncovered negligent searches for records, a failure to keep adequate email records, a failure to document searches, and the willful destruction of records responsive to an access request. Taken together, these practices threaten the integrity of access to information in British Columbia.”
– Elizabeth Denham, B.C. Information and Privacy Commissioner (OIPC Press Release), Oct. 22, 2015

3) Your culture gets rotten if it’s left out too long

“This report is a scathing indictment. A culture of deception, a culture of deceit, a culture of delete, delete, delete.”
– New Democrat Leader John Horgan (in The Province), Oct. 23, 2015

4) What’s another word for “pretense?” Anyone?

“Premier Christy Clark’s promise to have the most open, transparent government in the country has been mostly pretense.”
– Gary Mason (Globe and Mail), Dec. 17, 2015

5) It’s hard to tell the scandals without a program

“But it was hard not to laugh – and wonder whether the government has so many embarrassments in play that even the insiders are having trouble keeping them straight.”
– Vaughn Palmer (Vancouver Sun), Nov. 21, 2015

6) Christy Clark must think open government is for suckers

“Having pounded a symbolic wooden stake through the heart of the secretive, disdainful and power-amassing Stephen Harper, people who are fed up with unresponsive governments have no further to look for a new target than Victoria. “The latest revelations about the Premier Christy Clark government’s distaste for providing information to anyone outside its inner circle is, if you happen to be a democrat, simply depressing.”
– Lorne Eckersley (Creston Valley Advance), Nov. 3, 2015

7) Premier Clark’s goal: the best government her buddies can hide

“Unfortunately, their long tenure seems to have convinced many of the party hacks within the Liberal machine that they are not beholden to anyone. Not the press or the public, certainly. When a government decides to control and conceal information for political purposes, they have given up the right to govern.“
– Editorial, Langley Advance, Oct. 29, 2015

8) Is the Cone of Silence still a thing?

“Another senior staffer in charge of Freedom of Information requests in [Premier Christy] Clark’s office asks people about them in person, occasionally scribbling on a sticky note, which he then gets rid of. Call it government by Post-It. Wisecrackers have suggested burner phones and invisible ink could be next.”
– Editorial (North Shore News), Oct. 25, 2015

9) Now we know where Christy Clark’s Prosperity Fund went

“Here now I present my list of 2016 Pipe Dreams… “Premier Christy Clark or someone else in the BC Liberal government actually writes something down in regards to public policy and not triple delete it. “Apparently this never, ever, ever happens and the bill for Post-It notes must be enormous.”
– Chris Campbell, (Vancouver 24 Hours), Dec. 24, 2015

10) Idea for next bus slogan: For a Hoodwink-Free BC

“Like the former federal Conservative government, the B.C. Liberals are showing a penchant for doing whatever it wants and trying to hoodwink British Columbians.”
– Editorial (100 Mile House Free Press), Oct. 29, 2015

11) Give them time; they’ll find a way to quadruple-delete

“It’s the now-notorious triple-delete move. It’s like locating all the documents someone requested on a sensitive topic and setting fire to them, then flushing the ashes. You couldn’t devise a more suspicious response if you tried.”
– Editorial (Times Colonist), Page Oct. 24, 2015

12) Christy Clark is hiding her desire for open government

“Chances are that most private individuals do not employ a triple-delete protocol. “We would do that only if… well, if we had something to hide.”
– Editorial (Peace Arch News), Oct. 29, 2015

…On Christy Clark’s failure to help the most vulnerable
13) How is it possible everyone gets this except the ‘families first’ premier?

It’s time for B.C. to collaborate with other provinces and Canada to find a just and workable solution. The province might even aspire to leadership on the poverty file … rather than playing the laggard.”

– Editorial (Vancouver Sun), Nov. 28, 2015

14) Only excuse Christy Clark seems to have is that she doesn’t want a plan

“B.C. is now the only province in Canada to not have [a poverty-reduction] plan The NDP’s proposal would see targets set to reduce child poverty in B.C., including having a lead minister in charge of the plan. “The Liberals may not agree with all facets of the plan, but there is simply no excuse for not coming up with a plan of their own.”
– Editorial (Burnaby Now), Dec. 2, 2015

… in the Premier’s own words
15) In case anyone thought she wasn’t just in it for herself…

[Asked how she felt about Malaysia, where a $700 million donation ended up in a politician’s bank account]: “Makes me feel like I went into business in the wrong country.”
– Christy Clark (in The Tyee), Dec. 14, 2015

16) If you have to work that hard at a non-denial denial, well…

[Asked if she intended to repeat her party’s wasteful $17-million, partisan pre-election ad campaign]: “I don’t think that’s in the plan. I wish I could say to you no, never, but I, you know…”
Christy Clark (in BC Local News), Dec. 15, 2015

http://bcndpcaucus.ca/news/what-theyve- ... is-year-2/

[Smurf]

That's probably only a beginning.

[flamingfingers]

^^There will be more to come in 2016, Smurf..... waayyyy more!

[Donald G]

Unread postby maple leaf » Today, 10:01 am

These are the things being said around BC about our government.

And this article was published in which NDP handbook again ??

[Hurtlander]

And this article was published in which NDP handbook again ??

Who cares if it's from the NDP "handbook"....incase you missed it, take a close look at the original sources of this information..

What they’ve been saying this year…
December 31, 2015



… About culture of the Christy Clark government
1) Our thesaurus has lots of synonyms for “dishonesty” too

“Enough of the obfuscating, weaseling, dissimulation, doubletalk, verbal subterfuge, stonewalling and other distasteful conduct that hangs like a miasma over the shameful events surrounding the precipitous firing of eight Ministry of Health researchers in 2012. The public deserves a public inquiry.”
– Editorial (Vancouver Sun), June 19, 2015

2) Just the Facts, Ms. Denham

“In the course of this investigation, we uncovered negligent searches for records, a failure to keep adequate email records, a failure to document searches, and the willful destruction of records responsive to an access request. Taken together, these practices threaten the integrity of access to information in British Columbia.”
– Elizabeth Denham, B.C. Information and Privacy Commissioner (OIPC Press Release), Oct. 22, 2015

3) Your culture gets rotten if it’s left out too long

“This report is a scathing indictment. A culture of deception, a culture of deceit, a culture of delete, delete, delete.”
– New Democrat Leader John Horgan (in The Province), Oct. 23, 2015

4) What’s another word for “pretense?” Anyone?

“Premier Christy Clark’s promise to have the most open, transparent government in the country has been mostly pretense.”
– Gary Mason (Globe and Mail), Dec. 17, 2015

5) It’s hard to tell the scandals without a program

“But it was hard not to laugh – and wonder whether the government has so many embarrassments in play that even the insiders are having trouble keeping them straight.”
– Vaughn Palmer (Vancouver Sun), Nov. 21, 2015

6) Christy Clark must think open government is for suckers

“Having pounded a symbolic wooden stake through the heart of the secretive, disdainful and power-amassing Stephen Harper, people who are fed up with unresponsive governments have no further to look for a new target than Victoria. “The latest revelations about the Premier Christy Clark government’s distaste for providing information to anyone outside its inner circle is, if you happen to be a democrat, simply depressing.”
– Lorne Eckersley (Creston Valley Advance), Nov. 3, 2015

7) Premier Clark’s goal: the best government her buddies can hide

“Unfortunately, their long tenure seems to have convinced many of the party hacks within the Liberal machine that they are not beholden to anyone. Not the press or the public, certainly. When a government decides to control and conceal information for political purposes, they have given up the right to govern.“
– Editorial, Langley Advance, Oct. 29, 2015

8) Is the Cone of Silence still a thing?

“Another senior staffer in charge of Freedom of Information requests in [Premier Christy] Clark’s office asks people about them in person, occasionally scribbling on a sticky note, which he then gets rid of. Call it government by Post-It. Wisecrackers have suggested burner phones and invisible ink could be next.”
– Editorial (North Shore News), Oct. 25, 2015

9) Now we know where Christy Clark’s Prosperity Fund went

“Here now I present my list of 2016 Pipe Dreams… “Premier Christy Clark or someone else in the BC Liberal government actually writes something down in regards to public policy and not triple delete it. “Apparently this never, ever, ever happens and the bill for Post-It notes must be enormous.”
– Chris Campbell, (Vancouver 24 Hours), Dec. 24, 2015

10) Idea for next bus slogan: For a Hoodwink-Free BC

“Like the former federal Conservative government, the B.C. Liberals are showing a penchant for doing whatever it wants and trying to hoodwink British Columbians.”
– Editorial (100 Mile House Free Press), Oct. 29, 2015

11) Give them time; they’ll find a way to quadruple-delete

“It’s the now-notorious triple-delete move. It’s like locating all the documents someone requested on a sensitive topic and setting fire to them, then flushing the ashes. You couldn’t devise a more suspicious response if you tried.”
– Editorial (Times Colonist), Page Oct. 24, 2015

12) Christy Clark is hiding her desire for open government

“Chances are that most private individuals do not employ a triple-delete protocol. “We would do that only if… well, if we had something to hide.”
– Editorial (Peace Arch News), Oct. 29, 2015

…On Christy Clark’s failure to help the most vulnerable
13) How is it possible everyone gets this except the ‘families first’ premier?

It’s time for B.C. to collaborate with other provinces and Canada to find a just and workable solution. The province might even aspire to leadership on the poverty file … rather than playing the laggard.”

– Editorial (Vancouver Sun), Nov. 28, 2015

14) Only excuse Christy Clark seems to have is that she doesn’t want a plan

“B.C. is now the only province in Canada to not have [a poverty-reduction] plan The NDP’s proposal would see targets set to reduce child poverty in B.C., including having a lead minister in charge of the plan. “The Liberals may not agree with all facets of the plan, but there is simply no excuse for not coming up with a plan of their own.”
– Editorial (Burnaby Now), Dec. 2, 2015

… in the Premier’s own words
15) In case anyone thought she wasn’t just in it for herself…

[Asked how she felt about Malaysia, where a $700 million donation ended up in a politician’s bank account]: “Makes me feel like I went into business in the wrong country.”
– Christy Clark (in The Tyee), Dec. 14, 2015

16) If you have to work that hard at a non-denial denial, well…

[Asked if she intended to repeat her party’s wasteful $17-million, partisan pre-election ad campaign]: “I don’t think that’s in the plan. I wish I could say to you no, never, but I, you know…”
Christy Clark (in BC Local News), Dec. 15, 2015

http://bcndpcaucus.ca/news/what-theyve- ... is-year-2/

[Donald G]

Sorry to you three NDP advocates but the election is long over. Bashing Premier Clark has gone out of style in the real world.

[Hurtlander]

Sorry to you three NDP advocates but the election is long over. Bashing Premier Clark has gone out of style in the real world.

Sorry to disappoint you Donald, but I'm not an NDP advocate. You don't need to be an NDP advocate to criticize Christy Clark and her government, you just need to be observant and literate. What I find disappointing is that Dan Brooks isn't openly using Christy Clarks failures and missteps to make a name for himself and further his political aspirations.

[Smurf]

I don't believe bashing Christy Clark is going out of style, I believe it is coming more and more into style. If there had been any sort of alternative in the last election I don't believe we'd even be talking about Christy. More and more I am seeing even people that used to like the Liberals looking and hoping for any reasonable alternative. I believe even many staunch Liberal supporters are hoping for some sort of change. I am willing to bet that if there was a viable alternative she would be out faster and further than the PCs just were federally.

[Donald G]

Whether we like it or not Smurf, the situation has not changed since the last election and by-election. Christy Clark remains the best of the selection available to BC voters. But I do agree with you that BC has been going through a bit of a drought in terms of political options. Continually knocking what we have chosen (some would say were forced to choose) is not IMO the best way forward.

OMO our time would be better spent trying to find and identify a better leader than continually knocking the one we have elected.

[maple leaf]

^^ The point is to continually put the spotlight on the fallacies of Christy Clark and her government ,hopefully will force her supporters to find better.Otherwise turning a blind eye,people become complacent and we will be stuck with her forever.

[Urbane]

I don't believe bashing Christy Clark is going out of style, I believe it is coming more and more into style. If there had been any sort of alternative in the last election I don't believe we'd even be talking about Christy. More and more I am seeing even people that used to like the Liberals looking and hoping for any reasonable alternative. I believe even many staunch Liberal supporters are hoping for some sort of change. I am willing to bet that if there was a viable alternative she would be out faster and further than the PCs just were federally.

I keep hoping for any sort of reasonable alternative because change is long overdue.

[Hurtlander]

OMO our time would be better spent trying to find and identify a better leader than continually knocking the one we have elected.

You're wrong, by exposing Christy's dishonesty, misdeeds and incompetence, there's a good chance the liberal party faithful will request that she be replaced as leader at the next liberal convention.

[Urbane]

^^ The point is to continually put the spotlight on the fallacies of Christy Clark and her government ,hopefully will force her supporters to find better.Otherwise turning a blind eye,people become complacent and we will be stuck with her forever.

I'm not convinced that Christy Clark will lead the Liberals into the next election in 2017 but how about finding a better alternative outside of the Liberal Party? Forget the NDP because even union supporters who want jobs have turned their backs on the NDP. Site C will create lots of jobs but the NDP is opposed. And their default position is to oppose just about every other project as well. So unless the Conservatives get their act together and provide a reasonable alternative we're pretty well stuck. Mind you it could be a lot worse (see Ontario).

[maple leaf]

I'm not convinced that Christy Clark will lead the Liberals into the next election in 2017 but how about finding a better alternative outside of the Liberal Party? Forget the NDP because even union supporters who want jobs have turned their backs on the NDP. Site C will create lots of jobs but the NDP is opposed. And their default position is to oppose just about every other project as well. So unless the Conservatives get their act together and provide a reasonable alternative we're pretty well stuck. Mind you it could be a lot worse (see Ontario).

I don't support building Site C and there are far better ways to create jobs in BC ,The NDP will be laying that out more as we build up to an election.You are wrong on the NDP default position.I also don't support a far right Conservative party.
The Currant Liberal( in Name only) party IMO needs to dump Christy Clark as soon as possible and restore that party back to a Liberal party, as I see it now it is a Conservative party similar to Harper Cons,and maybe even worse.A Liberal party more like we now have Federally.It still would not be my first choice, but would be by a long way more palatable, than we now have.

[Urbane]

I don't support building Site C and there are far better ways to create jobs in BC ,The NDP will be laying that out more as we build up to an election.You are wrong on the NDP default position.I also don't support a far right Conservative party.
The Currant Liberal( in Name only) party IMO needs to dump Christy Clark as soon as possible and restore that party back to a Liberal party, as I see it now it is a Conservative party similar to Harper Cons,and maybe even worse.A Liberal party more like we now have Federally.It still would not be my first choice, but would be by a long way more palatable, than we now have.

Site C will create jobs but it isn't JUST about creating jobs. Those who are worried about carbon emissions should really get behind Site C and should support this project that will provide relatively clean energy. Energy that we will need. It's fine to keep asking the Liberal Party to change but remember that they keep getting re-elected. Wouldn't it be more useful to suggest that the official opposition party make some serious changes?? I don't disagree with you about the Liberals having made lots of mistakes but there's a reason that they keep winning elections. Think about it. Anyway, now that Dan Brooks has resigned as leader of the BC Conservative Party perhaps a new, young, dynamic leader will come along and be a game-changer.