FOI Request Cost to Taxpayers
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FOI Request Cost to Taxpayers
I'm starting a new thread even though this was touched on in another. I'm hoping this can be a non-partisan discussion..
So it turns out that the cost of FOI requests made by a single journalist have cost taxpayers $3.85 million. Given the current focus on controlling costs, we have a case where a very large bill has been given to taxpayers due to one person's activities, used in support of that person's job.
While its important to allow access to information, to what point should taxpayers be on the hook for funding such requests? Is excessive use of FOI requests by journalists something to be concerned about? Should there be limits on persons, businesses, or groups? What needs to change for this to be controlled?
So it turns out that the cost of FOI requests made by a single journalist have cost taxpayers $3.85 million. Given the current focus on controlling costs, we have a case where a very large bill has been given to taxpayers due to one person's activities, used in support of that person's job.
While its important to allow access to information, to what point should taxpayers be on the hook for funding such requests? Is excessive use of FOI requests by journalists something to be concerned about? Should there be limits on persons, businesses, or groups? What needs to change for this to be controlled?
- maryjane48
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Re: FOI Request Cost to Taxpayers
the govt should be posting everything online . then the cost is no where near as much . people shouldnt have to make a request .
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Re: FOI Request Cost to Taxpayers
I do know that many in the media have complained for years that it's much easier, faster, and cheaper to obtain FOI documents in Washington State than it is in B.C. The government should look for ways to streamline the process here even for those involved in fishing expeditions. We also need to remember that those who say things like, "Just post everything online" are on the wrong track. There are privacy laws. Again, the FOI law is actually called the "Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act."
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Is there a source clarifying what that cost refers to, and if i'ts BC , Federal or any other province.
Each has its own regulations, policies and a fee structure to recover some of the cost involved in FOI requests. In most cases, once information on an FOI request has been released, the information is also published online.
Regulations and fees are published along with process for submitting FOI requests. You can look up regulatory process and fees. . It's not always easy or cheap to get information on an FOI requests because requestor has to be quite specific and know what department or agency holds the information. A couple of links for more information on this:
http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/gover ... oi-request
Fees:
http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bclaws ... #Schedule1
Each has its own regulations, policies and a fee structure to recover some of the cost involved in FOI requests. In most cases, once information on an FOI request has been released, the information is also published online.
Regulations and fees are published along with process for submitting FOI requests. You can look up regulatory process and fees. . It's not always easy or cheap to get information on an FOI requests because requestor has to be quite specific and know what department or agency holds the information. A couple of links for more information on this:
http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/gover ... oi-request
Fees:
http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bclaws ... #Schedule1
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Re: FOI Request Cost to Taxpayers
It costs money to retrieve triple-deleted emails that are on private servers that government officials use to get around FOI requests.
Elect more transparent officials and this won't be a problem.
Elect more transparent officials and this won't be a problem.
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I expect costs have less to do with retrieval than privacy screening. This is why posting everything would be more costly than the current system. I like the idea of streamlining, though even at half the cost it would still be possible for one person to rack up around a $2 million bill.
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Re: FOI Request Cost to Taxpayers
Democracy costs money.
The true business of people should be to go back to
school and think about whatever it was they were
thinking about before somebody came along and told
them they had to earn a living.
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school and think about whatever it was they were
thinking about before somebody came along and told
them they had to earn a living.
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Re: FOI Request Cost to Taxpayers
Atomoa wrote:Democracy costs money.
so do partisan witch-hunts.
Not afraid to say "It".
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Re: FOI Request Cost to Taxpayers
removed.
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It's important to note than most FOI requests are delivered redacted, significantly depending on the subject of the request. They couldn't possibly redact and post everything online for the same or lesser cost than doing so for specific subjects, as some subjects wouldn't have been requested in the first place.
Come quickly Jesus, we're barely holding on.
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thanks for making my point . *removed*
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Re: FOI Request Cost to Taxpayers
Can someone remind me what FOI is, please.
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Re: FOI Request Cost to Taxpayers
Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act
http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/document/ID/ ... e/96165_00
http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/document/ID/ ... e/96165_00
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