Poland wins contract

[maryjane48]

http://www.cknw.com/2016/03/24/polish-s ... f=facebook


140 million out the door

[Urbane]

http://www.cknw.com/2016/03/24/polish-shipyard-wins-140-million-bid-to-upgrade-bc-ferries-vessels/?sc_ref=facebook


140 million out the door

From your article:

A bid from North Vancouver’s Seaspan was withdrawn from the process.

[Jlabute]

Natural Gas is declining in cost so it is a good fuel choice. (Better than wind or solar). The Poles have the experience to do the upgrades. Sad we can't but I guess you just can't watch YouTube videos to figure it out. (Search: Upgrade my ferry). Are the upgrades necessary or in response to money wasting greenness?

http://www.bcferries.com/files/AboutBCF ... o_BCFC.pdf

Apparently diesel fuel is $121M a year, LNG may be 1/2 the cost. BC ferries could get 140M back fairly quick.

Would still be nice if we could do it.

[bob vernon]

Contracts awarded to local companies are subject to forensic audits to see where the money is going.

Contracts awarded to companies outside Canada are NOT subject to Canadian forensic audits. Some of the money can vanish as "fees" and "charges" are placed into unknown bank accounts by the "friendly" winner of the contract. Some might call this corruption. Or kickbacks.

[The Green Barbarian]

Contracts awarded to companies outside Canada are NOT subject to Canadian forensic audits. Some of the money can vanish as "fees" and "charges" are placed into unknown bank accounts by the "friendly" winner of the contract. Some might call this corruption. Or kickbacks.

and some might call speculation like this with zero proof or basis in reality "fear mongering" and "completely groundless accusations done purely for partisan purposes".

Congrats Poland. You got it this time, but your competitiveness only forces us Canadians to be better. And better we shall be. Only the weak and the lazy and the stupid hide behind tariff walls. We are the best in the world, or at least, we can be, if we never listen to the sniveling whiners and lazy losers who tell us that we aren't.

[Dizzy1]

Curious to know if there is the same uproar when BC shipyards are awarded contracts from foreign countries?

[Jlabute]

I think most of their contracts have been ferries, coast guard boats etc. I can't even say we get international business... Although, business has been national, but mostly provincial. Anyone know if BC caters to other countries for shipyard work?



"the BC Liberal government changed that policy and has began encouraging foreign shipyards to bid on BC Ferries' work.
Under the new policy, foreign shipyards in China, Korea, the United States, Singapore, Poland, Japan and the Netherlands have all been asked to submit bids for refit and new vessel construction work for BC Ferries.

And while the government claims foreign bids will lead to lower costs through more competition, in the first major refit contract to go international tendering a BC company was the lowest bidder.
In the next international tender, for a new ship to replace the current Bowen Island ferry, despite encouraging foreign participation, only a BC company submitted a qualified bid.

And British Columbians do not agree with the foreign shipyard policy."

[LTD]

You guys realize that seaspan pulled their bid because they're TO BUSY and don't have any space to take on the job right, it has nothing to do with who's better or kickbacks.

[MAPearce]

Curious to know if there is the same uproar when BC shipyards are awarded contracts from foreign countries?

I think you missed that the BC shipyards are busy with federal gov't contracts and backed out of the process..

That's a good thing !

[logicalview]

You guys realize that seaspan pulled their bid because they're TO BUSY and don't have any space to take on the job right, it has nothing to do with who's better or kickbacks.

why would you let reality get in the way of a chance to whine about jobs going off-shore?

[LTD]

sorry my bad just thought I might save four pages of crying