26 "Birth Houses" in B.C.

[pepsilover]

New phrase "BIRTH TOURISM".

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/pregnan ... spartandhp

Health ministry investigators are aware of more than two dozen so-called birth houses in B.C. offering pregnant foreign mothers temporary room and board before and after giving birth in local hospitals, according to Freedom of Information documents obtained by Postmedia.

The baby houses, as they are called in Asia, are used by women seeking instant Canadian citizenship for their newborns.

The internal briefing document, titled Birth by Non-B.C. Residents, was created in response to a Vancouver Sun story last year about the three-fold increase since 2009 of non-resident births.

A department in Victoria called the Audit and Investigations Branch, Eligibility, Compliance and Enforcement Unit (ECEU) knows about 26 private residences offering hospitality services to foreign pregnant women. It said the residences are used by two groups.

The first includes those in Canada on a temporary resident document, such as a tourist visa, work or study permit. They come to deliver a baby “who by birth is then granted Canadian citizenship status.” They do not access Medical Services Plan-funded benefits and “they declare themselves as self-pay at hospitals and to doctors.”

The second category includes permanent residents properly enrolled in MSP, but at some point cease to meet the definition under the Medicare Protection Act. They return to their country of origin but remain enrolled in the MSP. They then return to B.C. to have a baby and since they still have MSP coverage, bills related to the mother and baby are billed to the plan. They stay long enough to obtain a birth certificate, a Canadian passport and enrolment in MSP for the baby before returning to their country of origin.


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[dontrump]

just another reason government should not be running and ruling on everything.these birth houses should be outlawed and shut down
When one reads the socialist left rants of the people whom run the system its stunning to hear how their condon such utter rubbish
This automatic citizen ship is garabage and whats really garbage is(example) Asian come here get on the MSP system legally then leave and live abroad and return pregnant to get free child birth coverage.,These officials inviolved know this is going on and do zero to stop it.

[bob vernon]

Yes, the socialists have been in power for far too long in this country, and this province. Imagine, these leftists allowing these "birth-houses" to even exist. If we had a good, right-wing government for any length of time, these dens of communism would be shut down, and real good and quick. Out with the leftists and their evil spawn!

Christie Clark and Steven Harper are far too much to the left for this country. And now we have Trudeau in charge, even further to the left. Heaven help us.

[Rosemary1]

Whether it's the use of birth houses or not, the practice of giving birth in Canada by Asian and Hong Kong citizens in particular lhas been well known in BC. A rise in practice started while Van der Zalm was premier and was promoting Asian investment in property in BC in Taiwan and Hong Kong in particular. Many Chinese worried about future when lease in Hong Kong expired saw this as one way of securing a future foothold in Canada for their kids and themselves.

[pepsilover]

just another reason government should not be running and ruling on everything.these birth houses should be outlawed and shut down
When one reads the socialist left rants of the people whom run the system its stunning to hear how their condon such utter rubbish
This automatic citizen ship is garabage and whats really garbage is(example) Asian come here get on the MSP system legally then leave and live abroad and return pregnant to get free child birth coverage.,These officials inviolved know this is going on and do zero to stop it.

Indeed, they are the same people who probably complain about the Vancouver Canucks' player who jumps the queue at the local hospital for tests. Those are the people who need to READ this article. Talk about being lulled into stupidity. Don't forget the pregger foreign ladies who are jumping the queue and paying big bucks (like they do for houses in Vancouver) while us native Canadians get to stand outside and wait in pain.

Oh yeah, SAVE THE WORLD. Just forget about those who were born here and made this country great.

[pepsilover]

Whether it's the use of birth houses or not, the practice of giving birth in Canada by Asian and Hong Kong citizens in particular lhas been well known in BC. A rise in practice started while Van der Zalm was premier and was promoting Asian investment in property in BC in Taiwan and Hong Kong in particular. Many Chinese worried about future when lease in Hong Kong expired saw this as one way of securing a future foothold in Canada for their kids and themselves.

Wasn't well-known to me and in fact these 'birth houses' are a new thing. There are implications for citizens looking to acquire timely medical care as well. Did you read the entire article?

[looking4one]

*removed*

[occasional thoughts]

I do not believe that birth in Canada should automatically convey Canadian citizenship. I also do not believe in dual citizenship. But I'm enjoying this topic immensely for the right-wing attacks on the practice by the usual suspects given the obvious benefit that the practice gives to the right-wing party in the U.S. and probably by reasonable extension, to similar politicos in Canada.

From Wikipedia, ref. Gov. Bobby Jindal, Republican candidate for U.S. president, and speaking of his parents from India:

They came to the US for his birth to ensure his citizenship.

Same with Sen. Marco Rubio, born in Florida of Cuban parentage, about who Wikipedia has to say,

Neither of his parents was a U.S. citizen at the time of Rubio's birth.

I think the standard expression might be, be careful what you wish for. A key source of conservative supporters might dry up if their rich parents can't grab Canadian citizenship for their kids by birthing them here.

[jimmy4321]

They should be shut down and yes being born here under those circumstances shouldn't give automatic citizenship. Maybe there outta be a way to insure pregnant women who enter Canada close to end of term have the money part or private insurance to cover in case they pop in this country at our expense.

[dontrump]

They should be shut down and yes being born here under those circumstances shouldn't give automatic citizenship. Maybe there outta be a way to insure pregnant women who enter Canada close to end of term have the money part or private insurance to cover in case they pop in this country at our expense.

good point more scrutiny required for sure something our officials from civic through federal don't ever seem to have theses days
The number one thing that picks my Butt big time is how do these residents get to keep BC MSP even though they been out of country for more than 7 months?
The law says no MSP if away more than seven months? or is that law just for real born in Canada to real Canadian parents also born here to real Canadian parents

[pepsilover]

I do not believe that birth in Canada should automatically convey Canadian citizenship. I also do not believe in dual citizenship. But I'm enjoying this topic immensely for the right-wing attacks on the practice by the usual suspects given the obvious benefit that the practice gives to the right-wing party in the U.S. and probably by reasonable extension, to similar politicos in Canada.

I think the standard expression might be, be careful what you wish for. A key source of conservative supporters might dry up if their rich parents can't grab Canadian citizenship for their kids by birthing them here.

Could you explain what you are talking about here? Or maybe I am one of those right wingers that doesn't believe the way you think I do, so I'm not getting it. What are you talking about? I guess I'm not clear at all what the 'obvious benefit' you refer to is. What is it? Or more precisely what do you think it is?

[occasional thoughts]

Cuban parents come to Florida to give birth to Marco so he has U.S. citizenship; Marco goes on to be good conservative Republican senator. Indian (as in India) parents come to U.S. to give birth to Bobby so he has U.S. citizenship; Bobby goes on to be good conservative Republican governor. Both are good albeit unsuccessful conservative candidates for Republican nomination for president in 2016. Obviously not everyone who is strategically birthed in the U.S. is a left-winger, jihadist, communist or, gasp, Democrat. I'm guessing the same sort of trend holds true for Canada.

And let me repeat, I'm not in favour of automatically granting Canadian citizenship to a baby birthed in Canada, and, as a further related comment, and thinking of the idiocy in Lebanon a few years ago in particular where the federal government was "concerned" or whatever about tracking down some 25,000 Canadians in Lebanon who couldn't be found,because of an upswing in violence there at the time. The tourists our government found easily; the strategic Canadians with dual citizenship who obviously preferred living in Lebanon were not to be readily found. (I invite Green Barbarian or similar to correct my poor memory on things like the year and numbers involved here.)