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Donald G wrote:. As the best of an imperfect lot Premier Christy Clark is miles ahead of Horgan or anyone else that the NDP has to offer.

The latest polls show that yes the BC liberals are ahead in the polls and projected to win. However your claim that Clark herself is miles ahead of Horgan is just plain silly. 62% of the BC electorate disapprove Clark, the reality is on a personal level Horgan is miles ahead of Clark.


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    Hurtlander wrote:The latest polls show that yes the BC liberals are ahead in the polls and projected to win. However your claim that Clark herself is miles ahead of Horgan is just plain silly. 62% of the BC electorate disapprove Clark, the reality is on a personal level Horgan is miles ahead of Clark.
Policies, and particularly policies that have given BC a strong economy, will decide the next election. It won't be leader popularity, or scandals (the real ones and the faux ones), or many of the trivial things discussed on here (e.g. the premier having her picture taken or her flying back and forth to Victoria). So voters might conclude that John Horgan is a decent guy but that he's leader of a party that will take the province in the wrong direction.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:
That is a great point. The Liberals have a terrible leader in Trudeau and yet the Liberals were still elected federally. I never really looked at it from that point of view. :up:


The main reason the Liberal in Canada won was because of Trudeau. He is charismatic, a sharp dresser and wasn't Harper.

The NDP lost the last election in BC because of lack of confidence in Dixon, IMO.
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Urbane wrote:It won't be leader popularity, or scandals (the real ones and the faux ones), or many of the trivial things discussed on here (e.g. the premier having her picture taken or her flying back and forth to Victoria).

LOL, those might be trivial actions to you, but for the majority (62%) of the BC electorate the shenanigans and the questionable actions of Christy Clark aren't trivial matters......Believe it or not, a person can actually be a liberal or centrist party supporter but have strong reservations about voting liberal this election strictly because of certain questionable things Christy has done or is doing or has said.
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    Hurtlander wrote:LOL, those might be trivial actions to you, but for the majority (62%) of the BC electorate the shenanigans and the questionable actions of Christy Clark aren't trivial matters......Believe it or not, a person can actually be a liberal or centrist party supporter but have strong reservations about voting liberal this election strictly because of certain questionable things Christy has done or is doing or has said.
How the premier dresses to supposedly attract males, the fact that she flies to and from her riding, the fact that she has her picture taken, and the fact that she tends to appoint Liberals to positions in the government and not NDP'ers don't even rise to "trivial." Other things like the lack of transparency, the political games (e.g. money now to keep some rural schools open), and some of the fundraising issues are not trivial. In the end though it will be the policies that have made BC's economy the strongest in the country that will decide the election. And the NDP'ers on here still can't tell people why they should vote FOR Horgan. That speaks volumes.
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Urbane wrote:. In the end though it will be the policies that have made BC's economy the strongest in the country that will decide the election.

Our BC economy is doing well because of Real Estate, construction, tourism and TV and film production, most of that is happening in the SW corner of the province and much of that can be attributed to low interest rates and a low Canadian dollar, neither of which the Christy government can take credit for. Meanwhile the central interior and the northern regions of the province which relies heavily on the resources sector is barely surviving.
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Hurtlander wrote:Our BC economy is doing well because of Real Estate, construction, tourism and TV and film production, most of that is happening in the SW corner of the province and much of that can be attributed to low interest rates and a low Canadian dollar, neither of which the Christy government can take credit for. Meanwhile the central interior and the northern regions of the province which relies heavily on the resources sector is barely surviving.


Well you can say that the government can't take credit for anything, and that's fine, but at least they are doing what all good governments should do, and unlike their NDP counterparts in Alberta, at least they aren't making it worse, by hiring thousands of needless bureaucrats and putting in bad and restrictive legislation. A good government gets out of the way, rather than becoming more invasive in daily lives of its citizens.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:A good government gets out of the way, rather than becoming more invasive in daily lives of its citizens.


so bill c51 and many of the other omnibussed fine print wasnt invasive and limiting liberties of canadians? really? or was it ok with you because it wasnt the type of interference that concerns you?
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sooperphreek wrote: or was it ok with you because it wasnt the type of interference that concerns you?


It didn't really concern me and like all of the other stupid things people were inventing about Harper it seemed to be a lot of crying and whining and just general stupidity. But what does this have to do with poor Horgan and his thankless task of trying to steer the sinking ship that is his pathetic party?
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The Green Barbarian wrote:Well you can say that the government can't take credit for anything, and that's fine, but at least they are doing what all good governments should do, and unlike their NDP counterparts in Alberta, at least they aren't making it worse, by hiring thousands of needless bureaucrats and putting in bad and restrictive legislation. A good government gets out of the way, rather than becoming more invasive in daily lives of its citizens.

Do you think the ill conceived taxing foreign residential property buyers an additional 15% tax, and officially saying no to the Kinder Morgan expansion because Christy is afraid of the Green Party siphoning off a few green votes, is a good example of getting out of the way ?
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Hurtlander wrote:Do you think the ill conceived taxing foreign residential property buyers an additional 15% tax, and officially saying no to the Kinder Morgan expansion because Christy is afraid of the Green Party siphoning off a few green votes, is a good example of getting out of the way ?

call the fire department. that was a good burn.....
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Hurtlander wrote:Do you think the ill conceived taxing foreign residential property buyers an additional 15% tax, and officially saying no to the Kinder Morgan expansion because Christy is afraid of the Green Party siphoning off a few green votes, is a good example of getting out of the way ?


No not really. But with the stupid NDP, it's always far far worse. Like shutting down any and all mineral exploration in the province with idiotic environmental restrictions. But I realize I am not going to get very far here given the audience is NDP kool aid drinkers.
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we in the NDP dont drink kool aid. we drink alot of beer and spirits because we support the hard working union bretheren who make those beverages and proudly pay dues.
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sooperphreek wrote:we in the NDP dont drink kool aid.
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and you don't understand metaphors either.
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sooperphreek wrote:we in the NDP dont drink kool aid. we drink alot of beer and spirits because we support the hard working union bretheren who make those beverages and proudly pay dues.


So basically the NDP are supported by a bunch of drunks. :biggrin:

That does explain a lot of their strange actions, and inability to produce a viable platform.
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