Even BC Lib lobbyists sick of 'Wild West" of fundraising

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GB - The SCoC took all of 20 minutes to decide that Christy's actions were unconstitutional. So in effect, the basis of the agreement in 1998 was in fact in accordance with constitutional law. Suck it up.

The law is hard to understand for some people....
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flamingfingers wrote:GB - The SCoC took all of 20 minutes to decide that Christy's actions were unconstitutional. So in effect, the basis of the agreement in 1998 was in fact in accordance with constitutional law. Suck it up.

The law is hard to understand for some people....


Who cares if it was "constitutional". I do love this disgusting deflection though. Only a complete idiot or someone who is controlled by the person benefiting from the decision would give total control of class size and composition to the BCTF. I realize that Clark and Dix are complete morons, as they are in the NDP after all, but this decision was so one-sided, so dumb, and so in favour of the BCTF, that mere stupidity isn't enough of an excuse. It was a dirty back-room deal, and it just goes to show as a glaring example why the NDP need to be disbanded once and for all. The NDP is a disease.
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^^The SCoC was involved with a 'dirty backroom deal'???? You probably should be careful what you say about them.

And if the Liberal government was concerned with 'the deal' back in 1998, why was that not challenged in court instead of Christy taking an ill-advised and constitutionally unsupportable move to tear up the teachers' contract?

You may hold the Constitution in personal contempt, but it actually allows YOU to enjoy the benefits we have in Canada.
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Who cares if it was "constitutional". I do love this disgusting deflection though. Only a complete idiot or someone who is controlled by the person benefiting from the decision would give total control of class size and composition to the BCTF. I realize that Clark and Dix are complete morons, as they are in the NDP after all, but this decision was so one-sided, so dumb, and so in favour of the BCTF, that mere stupidity isn't enough of an excuse. It was a dirty back-room deal, and it just goes to show as a glaring example why the NDP need to be disbanded once and for all. The NDP is a disease.


here we have a poster saying he doesnt believe in our charter and that the scoc was wrong haha.

well facts are the scoc ruled , its a done deal and your sour grapes wont change the reality of the ruling . which also leads to many parents disagreeing with you and infact feel cheated that their sons and daughters were used as pawns . in a game by a egotistical premier .


your side cost taxpayers of tbis province millions of our money on a losing bet . we want a explanation and deserve one . and if you wake up and find your dear leader clark is not the premier anymore the answer will be in your mirror
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flamingfingers wrote:^^The SCoC was involved with a 'dirty backroom deal'???? .


No. The NDP idiots Glenn Clark and Adrian Dix were. You know this. So does everyone else in BC. Which is one of the reasons why they've lost 4 elections in a row. The NDP is a disease.
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Then why did the SCoC find for the BCTF and not Christy?
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The NDP is a disease.


But corrupt Liberals are OK with you ?
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Non-profit group Integrity BC says it’s compiled a list of suspected improper donations to the BC Liberal Party that could total more than $1.5-million.

The group says it’s turning the list, highlighting 727 donations by 118 donors, over to the RCMP for further review.


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lets see the ndp say they will give back 2 donations of less than 5 thousand . then we have the clark gang at over a .million [icon_lol2.gif]
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I'm pretty sure reading through the last couple pages of this topic has given me cancer.
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It's becoming clearer why Christy Clark has done an about face on big money political donations. Not only is her party being investigated by the RCMP for violating politically donation laws but now it also appears dead executives from KPMG have been donating big money to the BC Liberals too. Paying for access to the BC Liberals has paid off nicely for KPMG

http://thebreaker.news/miscellany/dead- ... -liberals/

https://thetyee.ca/News/2017/03/11/Poli ... nded-RCMP/
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flamingfingers wrote:GB - The SCoC took all of 20 minutes to decide that Christy's actions were unconstitutional. So in effect, the basis of the agreement in 1998 was in fact in accordance with constitutional law. Suck it up.

The law is hard to understand for some people....


I think what you and many have confused is that the SCoC did not rule the language should be there. They ruled that the way it was taken out was unconstitutional and must be returned and new negotiations take place.

It was a screw up by all means. The government should have day 1 filed and injunction against a sleazy back room deal and then dealt with it in court eventually having it removed and properly negotiated. THe way it got in was just as bad as how it was taken out. However the Liberals goofed, yet the overall public agreed with what they did, it just wasn't the right way to do it.

maryjane48 wrote:Non-profit group Integrity BC says it’s compiled a list of suspected improper donations to the BC Liberal Party that could total more than $1.5-million.

The group says it’s turning the list, highlighting 727 donations by 118 donors, over to the RCMP for further review.


from cknw

lets see the ndp say they will give back 2 donations of less than 5 thousand . then we have the clark gang at over a .million [icon_lol2.gif]


As long as they have done the exact same investigation into the Greens, Conservatives, and NDP and the entire list of improprieties for all groups tallied and reported great. IF it is simply an attack on the Liberals none of it will hold up under scrutiny as it wasn't done in any official way.

Unless they did it for all of government people running, they forgot the integrity part of their name.
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I don't think the dollar figure is the key issue here. Both the Liberals and the NDP have accepted these donations that many of us want to make illegal but as Bill Good said earlier today, the Liberals have been more successful at raising money than the NDP. He said the he couldn't stand the "holier than thou" attitude of the NDP on the matter. Back in 2013, he pointed out, the NDP were getting all sorts of donations from groups thinking that the NDP would win the election. The NDP happily accepted those donations but now that the Liberals are cleaning up and they're not the NDP are outraged.
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Urbane wrote:I don't think the dollar figure is the key issue here. Both the Liberals and the NDP have accepted these donations that many of us want to make illegal but as Bill Good said earlier today, the Liberals have been more successful at raising money than the NDP. He said the he couldn't stand the "holier than thou" attitude of the NDP on the matter. Back in 2013, he pointed out, the NDP were getting all sorts of donations from groups thinking that the NDP would win the election. The NDP happily accepted those donations but now that the Liberals are cleaning up and they're not the NDP are outraged.


It's always "unfair" when you are losing to some groups. Instead of being better, the world must be "unfair"

NDP has become the the entitlement party, and it's simply not a winning plan. Heck the NDP charged double than the Liberals for the same type of fundraisers, they just don't have enough that actually agree to make them money.
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I didn't realise the NDP were in power and able to give away our tax dollars to big business. [icon_lol2.gif]
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Urbane wrote:I don't think the dollar figure is the key issue here. Both the Liberals and the NDP have accepted these donations that many of us want to make illegal but as Bill Good said earlier today, the Liberals have been more successful at raising money than the NDP. He said the he couldn't stand the "holier than thou" attitude of the NDP on the matter. Back in 2013, he pointed out, the NDP were getting all sorts of donations from groups thinking that the NDP would win the election. The NDP happily accepted those donations but now that the Liberals are cleaning up and they're not the NDP are outraged.

the dollar figure is the main issue when you have dead folks donating to the bcl8bs . *removed*
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