British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 7th, 2017, 2:20 pm

Great the more closed union shop jobs we have going the better off we will be .as for hobby claiming lead isnt harmfull to kids

you have young kids, it's important to find out whether there's any risk that they might be exposed to lead, especially if you live in an older home. Many toys and other products from outside the United States have also been found to contain lead.

Long-term exposure to lead, a naturally occurring metal used in everything from construction materials to batteries, can cause serious health problems, particularly in young kids. Lead is toxic to everyone, but unborn babies and young children are at greatest risk for health problems from lead poisoning — their smaller, growing bodies make them more susceptible to absorbing and retaining lead.

Each year in the United States, 310,000 1- to 5-year-old kids are found to have unsafe levels of lead in their blood, which can lead to a wide range of symptoms, from headaches and stomach pain to behavioral problems and anemia (not enough healthy red blood cells). Lead also can affect a child's developing brain.


http://m.kidshealth.org/en/parents/lead ... tml?WT.ac=


More than half of the 60 school districts in British Columbia had unsafe levels of lead in drinking water sources in 2016 and early 2017, according to new water testing ordered by the provincial government.

An analysis of the test results shows that 26.5 per cent of the 15,000 tests on about 10,000 drinking sources revealed lead levels that exceeded the mandated limit for drinking water, some of them by wide margins.

According to the data — and confirmed in interviews with district officials — the 34 school districts have responded with measures such as installing filters and, in some cases, by replacing pipes and fixtures.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby alanjh595 » Dec 7th, 2017, 5:24 pm

maryjane48 wrote:More than half of the 60 school districts in British Columbia had unsafe levels of lead in drinking water sources in 2016 and early 2017, according to new water testing ordered by the provincial government.

An analysis of the test results shows that 26.5 per cent of the 15,000 tests on about 10,000 drinking sources revealed lead levels that exceeded the mandated limit for drinking water, some of them by wide margins.

According to the data — and confirmed in interviews with district officials — the 34 school districts have responded with measures such as installing filters and, in some cases, by replacing pipes and fixtures.


Okay,
Where is the link to your souce?
and by your own words;
in 2016 and early 2017, according to new water testing ordered by the provincial government.

Wouldn't that make it under the liberal government that mandated and discovered these flaws?
Since the NDP has not been in power long enough during this period, they can not claim this as something that they did or are responsible for. They are simply doing a follow-up after they stabbed the liberals in the back and assumed their position. The NDP is just the mop-up crew, if the duly elected liberals were not ousted by back-room politics of the NDP and the Greens, the liberals would have taken care of this matter themselves.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby hobbyguy » Dec 7th, 2017, 5:39 pm

You will notice MJ that the recommendation in the article is to just run the tap for 30 seconds before drinking. Then there is no issue. I was certainly taught to that, and really, what kid doesn't want to run the fountain a bit before drinking to get cool water?

Yes, a good idea to upgrade the plumbing, but not nearly the "urgent" issue it is made out to be.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby hobbyguy » Dec 8th, 2017, 12:16 pm

http://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/columnists/les-leyne-weaver-still-has-room-to-rap-the-ndp-1.23112545

"For all the interest in proportional representation, the legislative session was a good example of the disproportionate power in the legislature.

If you measure the relative clout of NDP, B.C. Liberal and Green MLAs side-by-side-by-side, the Greens vastly outweigh the others, and have lots to show for it.

They hold three seats and all the cards in the minority house. They got the provincial constitution rewritten to give them party status, which includes various perks and salary bumps all around. They got a secretariat in the NDP government solely dedicated to keeping them in the loop and happy.

They got the government’s agenda redesigned partly to their specifications. And they got to retain a degree of independence so they can still sit on the sidelines and criticize as the mood strikes them.

That’s the right that Andrew Weaver exercised Monday in a year-end media scrum that wound up as a sharp critique of his senior partners in the power-sharing deal they struck last summer.

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Weaver said the NDP government has “dropped the ball, big time” on tackling the housing-affordability problem. The government earmarked several hundred million dollars for a few thousand new units, but he said: “Without a doubt, the problem is not on the supply side, it’s a demand-side problem. Our real estate is being used to park capital. It’s out of control.”

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Also on housing, the NDP held off on following through in the September budget update on the campaign promise of a $400 annual rebate to all tenants in B.C.

Asked when he expects to see the program, Weaver said he doesn’t. Why not? Because it was a “gimmick” that should be abandoned. If they do just that and blame him for it, he’s fine with that.

“It was bad public policy. … We’ve been straight up with [Finance Minister] Carole James that this is not good public policy.” He said it was a reckless idea. With more than a half-million renters, it would cost out at more than $200 million a year, with the payment going to everyone in penthouses and basement suites alike. B.C. already has a rental supplement program for lower-income tenants, and the federal government has announced moves toward something similar.

“Why create an independent bureaucratic structure to start handing out cheques?” asked Weaver.

Some of the Hail Mary promises to try to get people to vote for them are coming home to roost, and I think this is one that would be absolutely irresponsible if it goes forward.”

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"Weaver has no knowledge of what the NDP will do about the Site C dam, but he said decision-making has been “botched.”

Cabinet should have decided to abandon the power project right after the B.C. Utilities Commission report was concluded.

“When you’re afraid to make the principled decision up-front, you end up with the problem you have right now — no matter what decision you make, a whole bunch of people are going to be upset.”

Ah yes, Andrew Weaver has his "useful idiot", and he is using him well. Who is the real premier? It looks like the guy holding the rope that leads to the nose ring above the foolish grin.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby hobbyguy » Dec 15th, 2017, 11:32 am

maryjane48 wrote:Pipeline battle to heat up

https://globalnews.ca/news/3917536/kind ... y-baldrey/


The plastic kayak protestor brigade was never going to accept the rational, context based and science based decision to approve the TMX.

The phony George Heyman got where he got by exploiting the populist ignorance and nimbyism of the protest everything crowd, and promoting anarchism.

May he be hoist on his own foolish and hypocritical petard.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby hobbyguy » Dec 15th, 2017, 11:43 am

Interesting to note that Andrew Weaver is supporting and agitating for recall campaigns for Michelle Mungall and looney Lana Popham.

Both are ridings where the Greens did well. Andrew is using site C as a wedge to peel off NDP support in both ridings. Of course, that is easy for Andrew, he will never be in the position to form government, and so he can appeal to whatever populist nonsense he chooses.

I have to wonder if Horgan isn't starting to muse, "with friends like THAT, who needs enemies?"
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 15th, 2017, 7:10 pm

Interview,with premier
https://thetyee.ca/News/2017/12/15/Horg ... nd-Beyond/


He most certainly hints at approving site c is the catalyst to other choices the bclib supporters wont like :smt045
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby hobbyguy » Dec 16th, 2017, 1:40 am

maryjane48 wrote:Interview,with premier
https://thetyee.ca/News/2017/12/15/Horg ... nd-Beyond/


He most certainly hints at approving site c is the catalyst to other choices the bclib supporters wont like :smt045


Nothing there that wasn't in the NDP back of the napkin laundry list that they pretended was a platform.

I would suggest that you will be disappointed in the actual results. There isn't enough money to pay for the MSP premium cut alone (the NDP already gave most of it to the BCTF). There certainly isn't money for the $10/day daycare...even Adrian Dix said the province could not afford that.

Don't get me wrong, there are lots of things that need to be addressed. The big one is social housing. Addressing that, given that the mayors of the three biggest municipalities, Vancouver, Richmond, and Burnaby have abrogated their responsibilities in that regard for a decade, will chew up every nickel available in this budget, the next one, and the one after that, and the one after that, and the one after that.

114,000 units the NDP said were needed. Obviously that was a just a guess, but it seems close. $200K per unit? $300K per unit in Vancouver? Lets say an average of $240K per unit? 114,000 x $240K = $27.36 billion. The total budget surplus projected for 2018? Less than $300 million, and it will be less than that with the moves the NDP have already made.

That said, the Liberals had $355 million in the budget for social housing. So you might be able to scrape up $600 million per year for social housing at very best. That would mean that the social housing promise won't be complete for 46 years.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Jflem1983 » Dec 16th, 2017, 7:49 am

hobbyguy wrote:
maryjane48 wrote:Interview,with premier
https://thetyee.ca/News/2017/12/15/Horg ... nd-Beyond/


He most certainly hints at approving site c is the catalyst to other choices the bclib supporters wont like :smt045


Nothing there that wasn't in the NDP back of the napkin laundry list that they pretended was a platform.

I would suggest that you will be disappointed in the actual results. There isn't enough money to pay for the MSP premium cut alone (the NDP already gave most of it to the BCTF). There certainly isn't money for the $10/day daycare...even Adrian Dix said the province could not afford that.

Don't get me wrong, there are lots of things that need to be addressed. The big one is social housing. Addressing that, given that the mayors of the three biggest municipalities, Vancouver, Richmond, and Burnaby have abrogated their responsibilities in that regard for a decade, will chew up every nickel available in this budget, the next one, and the one after that, and the one after that, and the one after that.

114,000 units the NDP said were needed. Obviously that was a just a guess, but it seems close. $200K per unit? $300K per unit in Vancouver? Lets say an average of $240K per unit? 114,000 x $240K = $27.36 billion. The total budget surplus projected for 2018? Less than $300 million, and it will be less than that with the moves the NDP have already made.

That said, the Liberals had $355 million in the budget for social housing. So you might be able to scrape up $600 million per year for social housing at very best. That would mean that the social housing promise won't be complete for 46 years.



The advantage to the NDP social housing program is they know full well everyone gonna need social housing . So long as NDP policy has anything to do with it .

Pretty sure that is the plan. Break the people. Make them live like rats in projects
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby hobbyguy » Dec 16th, 2017, 12:48 pm

To large extent I agree. The NDP often express laudable ideas, but are incapable of implementing them.

In microcosm we see that with the NDP junior varsity Vision Vancouver and Gregor Robertson. Gregor's current pitch is that they are going to "create" a whole whack of rentals housing - they are going to make the city "more affordable".

Questions:

1) where have you been for the past decade?
2) why have you and your other NDP junior varsity mayor demovictions Derek Corrigan constantly thrown roadblocks in the way of rental developments and constantly approved the destruction of rental housing to make way for "for sale" condos??
3) how does jacking up property taxes 4.24% this year "make the city more affordable"??
4) why does your administration of the city have the worst, lengthiest and most costly building permit process?
5) why does your plan count on folks developing 4,000 laneway houses for "affordable" rentals? Laneway houses, especially with onerous requirements of the city of Vancouver "green" plans, are expensive to build. They won't rent cheaply and "be affordable".
6) Doesn't your "green" initiative to ban natural gas in new buildings work in a very serious fashion against "affordable" rentals? Natural gas heating is waaaay cheaper than electric....
7) doesn't placing your hopes on 4,000 laneway units plus more development of rentals in other areas not well served by transit mean that you have to make automobile commuting more readily available? Yet your other "bicycle" policies are destroying access to the city core where people work? What good is laneway housing in say, Marpole, if you can't get to work?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/are-vancouvers-policies-working-against-rental-housing/article37353717/

"But some developers and housing advocates say the city has actually obstructed – not helped – efforts to build the kind of projects Vancouver says it wants, prompting at least a few to walk away from potential projects that would have produced hundreds of units.

Those forging ahead with projects say they are not sure whether they will continue in the future, asserting that rentals have become increasingly difficult to build because of a maze of contradictory demands and agonizingly slow permitting times."

That microcosm in the city of Vancouver of contradictory utopianism is what will result in this provincial NDP government rapidly falling into the mediocrity of the 1990s NDP.

Governance is very largely about two things, a cohesive direction, and implementations. That requires a pragmatic balancing of priorities, budgets, and recognizing that some issues will require compromising others. In other words, management.

The BC NDP started out from a platform that was a contradictory grab bag of grievances. It had no cohesive vision or direction, and no plan for implementation. So now we see "the dog ate my homework" and study this, review that, and many things looking like they are working at cross purposes and lacking pragmatism.

The bridge tolls thing is microcosm of that. By simply axing the bridge tolls in a "reckless" fashion (Weaver's characterization) the NDP have produced a result that run counter to other of their own goals, and counter to the goals of the NDP junior varsity. A carefully thought out implementation would run something like this:

Fact: with the tolls, the bridges were being under utilized.
Fact: why do so many people that use the bridges commute by automobile? Because transit is too slow, and does not properly serve their needs.

Plan:

1) designate 1 lane each way on the toll bridge for transit only.
2) designate 1 lane each way on the appropriate highways as rush hour specific transit lanes
3) implement rush hour specific dedicated bus lane routes to quickly move people to hubs
4) leave the tolls in place, provide an income sensitive tax credit to remove the tolls entirely for the working poor, small toll for median income, full toll for businesses and higher income folks - balanced out to just barely cover the debt costs.

THAT would have left roughly $4 billion "borrowing room" for the BC NDP to have used, as necessary, to kickstart a real transit investment plan, but likely about $350 million would have gone into that corridor development.

Long term those now designated transit lanes would discourage folks from using cars and dovetail with "green" plans. The transit option would be both better and cheaper. As ridership grows, subject to engineering, the bridge and transit only lanes could be converted to higher capacity light rail transit or?? perhaps even higher capacity options that could be electrified.

I'm not saying that the above transit concept is ideal, but it builds in a lot of flexibility to adapt to real conditions on the ground, and at the same time provides people with a better option that does not work against other goals.

As it stands, the BC NDP "shot themselves in the foot" by not having a long term plan fleshed out. In the short term, the BC NDP have dramatically increased automobile traffic, which is contrary to their own "green" goals. They have also set up a scenario where they are financially constrained from investing heavily in transit, and will have to "take something away" in order to meet their other goals.

In the end, the political expediency of "removing the tolls" has destroyed what many Fraser Valley residents have hoped for , a transit corridor along highway 1 from Vancouver to Chilliwack. The key piece of the puzzle has been taken off the board by the NDP.

Certainly I don't think the BC Liberals had that transit corridor in mind with the imposition of heavy tolls on the Port Mann. What they were doing with those tolls was indeed problematic.

I am disappointed that the NDP did not see "the problem as an opportunity" beyond the simplistic "if we promise to eliminate the tolls, we can elect a couple more" political maneuvering. Sadly, that's all we got.

Sadly, that "seeing problems as opportunities" seems entirely lacking with the BC NDP, beyond the myopia of political point scoring.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 18th, 2017, 1:07 pm

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby hobbyguy » Dec 18th, 2017, 6:04 pm



No. A "study" for a new hospital.

IF instead proper health care planning was put in place, then BC could better care for, and with better outcomes, enough patients to amount to the construction of 11 average size hospitals, and at roughly 1/4 of the current cost.

See the Green party platform for details.

New hospitals are a cop out to a very large degree. But politicians love them, photo ops galore. Announce a study. Announce design. Announce funding. Golden shovel first sod turning. Ribbon cutting.

BC is desperately short of doctors and nurse practitioners. Where are the staff going to come from??
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby seewood » Dec 18th, 2017, 6:56 pm

hobbyguy wrote:New hospitals are a cop out to a very large degree. But politicians love them, photo ops galore. Announce a study. Announce design. Announce funding. Golden shovel first sod turning. Ribbon cutting.BC is desperately short of doctors and nurse practitioners. Where are the staff going to come from??


Exactly. There are people to staff the hospitals to some extent, but the governments budget prevents it.
The other issue is the equipment. Seems governments of the day depend on Hospital fund raising groups to provide the equipment.

As mentioned HG, there has to be a better way regardless of the screaming that would likely occur.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 18th, 2017, 7:46 pm

http://www.cbc.ca/1.4451711

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