British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby hobbyguy » Sep 11th, 2017, 8:58 pm

I laugh like heck about abandoning revenue neutrality for the carbon tax. The NDP whined and sniveled when it wasn't quite revenue neutral, and now they are destroying it completely. What a bunch of hypocrites!!

The revenue neutrality of BC's carbon tax has been highly praised in many circles as very good policy. Obviously good policy doesn't matter to the NDP! Just more money to feed to their masters - the BCTF.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Leifer » Sep 11th, 2017, 9:44 pm

And hey!
A possible credit down rating thanks to the NDP's elimination of tolls!
More poor decision making costing B.C tax payers hundreds of millions more in dept servicing.

Looks like it's in the mail.
It is the 1990's all over again.....
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Cactusflower » Sep 11th, 2017, 11:51 pm

You can't blame the NDP for the possible down-grading of our credit rating. The BC Liberals managed to dodge that bullet in their usual fraudulent methods.

Also, the carbon tax was never revenue neutral, at least not since Christy got her grubby little hands on the reins. You know that, HG, so why aren't you using some your other ammunition to discredit the NDP? You know, like union affiliation and stuff like that?
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Urban Cowboy » Sep 12th, 2017, 12:22 am

Cactusflower wrote:You can't blame the NDP for the possible down-grading of our credit rating. The BC Liberals managed to dodge that bullet in their usual fraudulent methods.

Also, the carbon tax was never revenue neutral, at least not since Christy got her grubby little hands on the reins. You know that, HG, so why aren't you using some your other ammunition to discredit the NDP? You know, like union affiliation and stuff like that?


Typical load of horse dung one would expect from an NDP zealot.

I can't imagine what it's like to be able to summarily mentally delete anything negative brought up about the NDP.

The only thing you guys are good at is blaming everyone, and everything, other than the NDP, for it's failures and ineptitude.

Then again I guess you've had 16yrs to practice, given we know you sure as heck didn't use the time to come up with viable plans, budgets, or anything else of actual value.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby hobbyguy » Sep 12th, 2017, 1:13 am

Cactusflower wrote:You can't blame the NDP for the possible down-grading of our credit rating. The BC Liberals managed to dodge that bullet in their usual fraudulent methods.

Also, the carbon tax was never revenue neutral, at least not since Christy got her grubby little hands on the reins. You know that, HG, so why aren't you using some your other ammunition to discredit the NDP? You know, like union affiliation and stuff like that?


Sorry, once again you are factually challenged. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Columbia_carbon_tax and http://sightline.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Chart-5-Cumulative-BC-Carbon-Tax-Revenues-and-Tax-Cuts.jpg

And of course the NDP are to be blamed for the credit downgrade. They are transferring $200 million in revenue to NDP Gregor and NDP Derek and lumping the province as a whole with the debt. The tolls aren't gone. The tolls will now go into the incompetent and "grubby" little hands of bicycle Gregor and demovictions Derek and the rest of the shoddy crew that have wrecked lower mainland transit and housing.

And of course the NDP are to be blamed for paying back incompetent NDPers bicycle Gregor, demovictions Derek and "just give us cash" Malcolm for abrogating their responsibilities to maintain rental housing stock and social housing. Those three goofs have destroyed more rental housing than you can shake a stick at. The city of Vancouver has had a 20% social housing policy since 1988, yet Gregor allowed the Vancouver social housing stock to fall to 8% - spent the money on stupid bicycle paths and pet projects like that. Demovictions Derek just signed off on booting 6,000 people out of their rental housing and says "social housing isn't my responsibility" - horsefeathers!! "Gimme cash" MalColm has been under constant fire for allowing developers to not include the mandated social housing units, just giving the city of Richmond cash - which somehow never gets spent on social housing. NOW the NDP are rewarding those goofs for their campaign support by saddling the province with the cost of 114,000 social housing units that the rest of us have to pay for!

Why should the rest of the province pay for the NDP three stooges incompetence, dishonesty and utter failure? Those clowns had the land, control of the bylaws and zoning - but they just took the money and played with bicycle paths and owelympic facilities and anything but the social housing and rental stock that is their responsibility. But, ah yes, they supported Johnny and his bunch of 1990s incompetents. So the NDP pay them back at the expense of the rest of the province.

It stinks! $3.7 billion added to the provincial books as debt, and hand the $200 million in revenue to those 3 stooges? The tolls aren't gone, they are coming back - only worse - ya, they'll call it mobility pricing or some other bafflegab - but the tolls are coming back. Surrey gets screwed again, and by the same rotten bunch of incompetents.

Those 3 stooges messed up the lower mainland housing mix, now the NDP reward them with provincial money! That stinks.

Notice how Malcolm is getting his way about the Massey Bridge, yet the mayor of Delta wants it...

It isn't good policy the NDP are pursuing, it is payback for for the three stooges who are NDP cronies. After all, they have bicycle Gregor's right hand man sitting as Horgan's chief of staff.

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Gone_Fishin » Sep 12th, 2017, 6:36 am

Canadian Taxpayers Federation - Fédération canadienne des contribuables

Monday, September 11, 2017

BC Budget: Bigger debt and bigger spending
BC government hikes carbon tax and piles on more debt


VICTORIA, BC: The Canadian Taxpayers Federation (CTF) is disappointed that the new BC government is hiking taxes, boosting spending and increasing the debt.

“BC taxpayers will pay more for heating their homes, driving their cars and running their businesses in the wake if this budget, because the carbon tax is going up and it isn’t even going to be ‘revenue neutral’ anymore,” said Kris Sims, BC Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. “The government has also cancelled the requirement to report where the carbon taxes taken from British Columbians go – this is now just going to be another buried tax grab that we are all forced to pay.”

The BC government is also adding to the provincial debt, boosting it by $6.9 billion between now and the 2019-20 fiscal year. That means the provincial debt is forecast to balloon from $65.9 billion to a total of $72.8 billion.
Hey Horgan, orange and green mixed together make brown, and that's the colour of crap!

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Queen K » Sep 12th, 2017, 6:40 am

But we know that will all change once the Liberals even find a leader for their party. :D
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Rwede » Sep 12th, 2017, 8:41 am

$7 billion in debt and 3500 unneeded teachers.

Gotta love the greasy palm.


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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Queen K » Sep 12th, 2017, 9:12 am

Unneeded teachers.

Or teachers who aren't willing to teach in far flung out posts?

I could also point out that our school counsellors may be steering students on to the career path to university to become teachers. Is it well known that "teachers" are retiring in droves now the boomers want to downsize and retire early? I recall many people were given out the prerequisites for advancing into the university teacher programs. So Canada has 3500 extra educated people who can parlay their skills into other careers if they so choose. Are you saying that is a waste of labour?

Why blame the NDP for that? :135:
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Urban Cowboy » Sep 12th, 2017, 9:22 am

Queen K wrote:But we know that will all change once the Liberals even find a leader for their party. :D


Go ahead make fun, it'll be short lived.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Queen K » Sep 12th, 2017, 9:24 am

Old Techie wrote:
Queen K wrote:But we know that will all change once the Liberals even find a leader for their party. :D


Go ahead make fun, it'll be short lived.


I'm not making fun. However you guys have been pouncing on every thing and making fun this whole time. Say you haven't?
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Urban Cowboy » Sep 12th, 2017, 9:26 am

Yeah well we have somewhat of a better foundation, what with favoring 16yrs of prosperity and all, compared to regressing back to what didn't work in the 1990's, in the hopes the electorate is too stupid to notice.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Queen K » Sep 12th, 2017, 9:28 am

Old Techie wrote:Yeah well we have somewhat of a better foundation, what with favoring 16yrs of prosperity and all, compared to regressing back to what didn't work in the 1990's, in the hopes the electorate is too stupid to notice.


I trust that you are directing your observations and comments to the appropiate people and not just posting here about it. :up:
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Rwede » Sep 12th, 2017, 11:05 am

Queen K wrote:Unneeded teachers.

Or teachers who aren't willing to teach in far flung out posts?

I could also point out that our school counsellors may be steering students on to the career path to university to become teachers. Is it well known that "teachers" are retiring in droves now the boomers want to downsize and retire early? I recall many people were given out the prerequisites for advancing into the university teacher programs. So Canada has 3500 extra educated people who can parlay their skills into other careers if they so choose. Are you saying that is a waste of labour?

Why blame the NDP for that? :135:


BC barfs out 1700 teachers a year for 400ish jobs.

For such a hard job, for such crappy pay, for such terrible working conditions, there still seems to be a >300% glut of supply on the market.

But Horgan is fixing all that. He's going to make sure that the BCTF gets union dues from another 3500 teachers, even though student enrolment has declined by 70,000 since 2000.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Cactusflower » Sep 12th, 2017, 11:10 am

It has become obvious that the only people who are complaining about the addition of more teachers in B.C. are the same people who went from K - 12 under the BC Liberal regime. Uneducated comments abound here on the Castanet forums.
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