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British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Buckeye19 » Feb 5th, 2018, 7:34 pm

flamingfingers wrote:^^Small potatoes Urb in comparison to the millions and millions of $$$ that has been used and abused by the BC Libs.


And there it is.

Even though my party is lying, it's not as bad as how the Liberals lied! Why is it so difficult for NDPers to call a spade a spade?

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 5th, 2018, 10:40 pm

Urbane wrote:
    flamingfingers wrote:^^BC Rail, ICBC, BC Hydro, Child poverty, Mount Polley, Health firings and resultant suicide of McIsaac, money Laundering, MSP premiums, BOSS power, BCTF settlement... it never ends, Urbane.
How many elections have the Liberals won since BC Rail was an issue? The civil servants involved went to jail. ICBC needs to be fixed and my preference would be to privatize it. BC Hydro has been a success story. There will always be relative poverty because of the word "relative." No one can eliminate relative poverty as it's now defined. The health firings were done at the civil service level and no elected officials were involved in those firings.

There has always been money laundering of one sort or another and always will be. There was crime under the Liberals so will the NDP eliminate crime? LOL. The Liberals promised to eliminate MSP premiums when the economy could afford it. The NDP said they would eliminate the premiums but had no idea how it would happen. Thanks for nothing! I point out that we have a world-class public education system and you point to the BCTF. Go figure! Typical NDP talking points . . .


Of course the civil servants went to jail, it's the BC Liberal M.O. (Actually, they didn't go to jail; they got a slap on the wrists.......house arrest for a little while). The BCLP managed to put a stop to the trial by having Basi & Virk plead guilty. Then when Auditor General John Doyle got too close to the truth, he mysteriously disappeared, back to Australia, we're told.

Same thing happened with the health firings, only that was far worse because a fine young researcher lost his life over it. Yes, Urb, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool the ones who can remember the cruel 16 years of BC Liberal reign. The BC electorate had better not forget those years. They are in for an even bumpier ride if they let Andy run the province.

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby LordEd » Feb 6th, 2018, 7:07 am

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby The Green Barbarian » Feb 6th, 2018, 10:28 am

flamingfingers wrote:^^And lying to the electorate won them the elections.


It was lying that won the NDP the 1996 election. Having no Opposition won the Liberals five elections in a row.

Shame on you.


If you voted for that idiot Hulk Horgan and the NDP's racist and sexist nomination policies then shame on you.
This current unelected NDP government is a disgrace.

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby George+ » Feb 6th, 2018, 2:06 pm

In actual fact , the NDP won a solid percentage in all the elections
But not enough for seats. Other than maybe Dosanjh and racism.

Despite what Urbane and the Barbarian may think, they were never close to being "wiped out",
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Old Techie » Feb 6th, 2018, 2:15 pm

George+ wrote:In actual fact , the NDP won a solid percentage in all the elections
But not enough for seats. Other than maybe Dosanjh and racism.

Despite what Urbane and the Barbarian may think, they were never close to being "wiped out",


A teacher who thinks 77-2 isn't close to being wiped out. ROFLMAO

But another example of NDP math prowess.

If they're so healthy, why do they have to resort to stealing funds from the treasury, to pay NDP party debts?

I mean if they are so fantastic, I'd expect you and the rest of the NDP faithful to be coughing up gobs of dough to support them.

Either that's not the case, or they are too incompetent to manage their books properly, or maybe both.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby hobbyguy » Feb 6th, 2018, 2:16 pm

George+ wrote:In actual fact , the NDP won a solid percentage in all the elections
But not enough for seats. Other than maybe Dosanjh and racism.

Despite what Urbane and the Barbarian may think, they were never close to being "wiped out",


Ah, but the NDP never had Andrew Weaver to deal with. He and the Greens are steadily nibbling away non base support. Very good chance the Greens become the credible alternative rather than the NDP.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby George+ » Feb 6th, 2018, 7:53 pm

Unfortunately, the Greens live in an idealistic Dreamland.
They need the NDP to keep them grounded. And should unite.

In most ridings the Greens are still well behind the NDP.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Urbane » Feb 6th, 2018, 8:00 pm

    George+ wrote:In actual fact , the NDP won a solid percentage in all the elections
    But not enough for seats. Other than maybe Dosanjh and racism.

    Despite what Urbane and the Barbarian may think, they were never close to being "wiped out",
You may be having fun re-writing history but it's still fiction. In 2001 many traditional NDP voters deserted the party. You've suggested it was racism and that might be part of it. But most voters recognized a party that had failed miserably. There were the scandals, two premiers resigning, a chief of staff being fired for backdating a memo, two credit downgrades, deficit budgets, a fudge it budget, and a premier who conceded the election well before election day. That was a world class gong show! Unfortunately, some of the same old gang are in charge now and they're starting to make some of the same mistakes!

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Gone_Fishin » Feb 6th, 2018, 8:08 pm

George+ wrote:In actual fact , the NDP won a solid percentage in all the elections
But not enough for seats. Other than maybe Dosanjh and racism.

Despite what Urbane and the Barbarian may think, they were never close to being "wiped out",


I don't know about that, George. We need only look at our local elections to counteract your accusations.

Pendharkar got more votes than all those WASPs who finished behind him. I wouldn't be so fast to jump on the racism train in elections, we're a diverse society that sees past a person's race. I think the people who finished lower than Murli simply weren't as good he, especially one in particular that we know is wayyyyyyyy out there and really not very smart. People vote for ideas, and those who are clueless with no good ideas just finish out of the running. Bad politicians just get wiped out.


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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby George+ » Feb 6th, 2018, 8:13 pm

Well it was racism. Period. WASP.
And the Green Party. Take a close look at percentages and not seats

The NDP has been in the 30-40% range most of the time depending on circumstances.

It is past time for the left to unite.
Or risk getting another Clark/Campbell clone.

In the last election the united left would have had a huge majority.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby George+ » Feb 6th, 2018, 8:21 pm

The Okanagan ridings, federal and provincial, are a fine example of WASP racism.

Despite many decent cultural candidates, it is usually the WASPish who get elected.

A cultural surgeon that I know says he refuses to operate on WASPs who gve him attirude.
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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Urbane » Feb 6th, 2018, 8:21 pm

    George+ wrote:Well it was racism. Period. WASP.
    And the Green Party. Take a close look at percentages and not seats

    The NDP has been in the 30-40% range most of the time depending on circumstances.

    It is past time for the left to unite.
    Or risk getting another Clark/Campbell clone.

    In the last election the united left would have had a huge majority.
If the 2001 election had anything to do with racism the guilty parties are NDP'ers because that's where the NDP lost its vote. A significant number of traditional NDP voters abandoned the party in that election. I really think it was the incompetency that did in the NDP though and not racism. I'll give NDP'ers a bit more credit than you do.

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Re: British Columbia's NDP Government: 2017

Postby Gone_Fishin » Feb 6th, 2018, 8:24 pm

George+ wrote:Well it was racism. Period. WASP.
And the Green Party. Take a close look at percentages and not seats

The NDP has been in the 30-40% range most of the time depending on circumstances.

It is past time for the left to unite.
Or risk getting another Clark/Campbell clone.

In the last election the united left would have had a huge majority.



NDP got 21.6% of the vote in 2001. It was because they SUCKED. And they still SUCK.
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