Clark plans on sticking around

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lasnomadas wrote:What was it about Christy Clark's politics that you didn't like.....the big whoppers? The arrogance? The increases to user fees, rates, and fares in order to 'balance the budget'? The contracts to BC Liberal donors? The pay-to-play rubber chicken dinners? Or just the whole bundle of corruption?


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It will be most interesting to see what transpires with Clark is in Opposition and a bill is presented to eliminate corporate/union donations.

Will she and her party vote to accept this bill?
What about childcare and ECE?
What about increasing Welfare rates?
Mental Health and Addictions Ministry?
MSP premiums reduced/eliminated?
Education funding formula?
Transit/ferries?
Tolls??
Post-secondary, ABE and ESL?

There is more that she included in her Speech from the Throne that was taken from the planks of the Greens and NDP - but how will she and her party explain to the electorate why they voted against them when these items were embraced in her Clone Speech
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    flamingfingers wrote:It will be most interesting to see what transpires with Clark is in Opposition and a bill is presented to eliminate corporate/union donations.

    Will she and her party vote to accept this bill?
    What about childcare and ECE?
    What about increasing Welfare rates?
    Mental Health and Addictions Ministry?
    MSP premiums reduced/eliminated?
    Education funding formula?
    Transit/ferries?
    Tolls??
    Post-secondary, ABE and ESL?

    There is more that she included in her Speech from the Throne that was taken from the planks of the Greens and NDP - but how will she and her party explain to the electorate why they voted against them when these items were embraced in her Clone Speech

While you're fixated on Christy Clark, ready to pounce, many of us will be looking at the actual proposals that the NDP submit to the Legislature. Let's see the fine print in the bill to ban corporate/union donations (if there even is one). Will the BCTF be able to drive a truck through a gaping hole in the policy? You've told us that it doesn't count as "partisan" advertising as long as the name of the party isn't specifically mentioned (the BCTF uses that sneaky argument as well) so will that huge loophole be allowed? We need to see the fine print on that bill and every other bill that's introduced.
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Christy Clark told she must vacate the Premier's Office:
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Urbane wrote:

We need to see the fine print on that bill and every other bill that's introduced.


That's totally fair. No argument from me on that.

However, how many times have you seen and read the "fine print" on the ChristyLiberal bills that have been presented?

None, I would say... I guess principles can change.
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^^Four elections. Each time the NDP have increased the number of seats won. Quite remarkable considering their standing in 2001. I guess there are people out there who have decided the 'dismal decade of the 1990s' were a fearmongering tactic by Gordo. Pity how many people were and still are willing to accept this brainwashing.
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We'll see how Clark and the Liberals conduct themselves in opposition but let's remember that the NDP and Greens voted down two bills with which they supported in principle. They voted no for purely political reasons. It's ironic to have an NDP poster on here tell us that what the NDP and Greens did was perfectly okay but that Christy Clark had better not do anything similar because that would just be wrong! Too funny!
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flamingfingers wrote:However, how many times have you seen and read the "fine print" on the ChristyLiberal bills that have been presented?

All right here including all read versions and unpassed bills.
https://www.leg.bc.ca/parliamentary-bus ... sion/bills

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^^Urbane - it has been explained to you any times over why Christy's teaser bills' were ignored by the NDP and the Greens.

Let's now see if she and her Opposition Party actually meant what she said in her Throne Speech, OK?
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    flamingfingers wrote:^^Urbane - it has been explained to you any times over why Christy's teaser bills' were ignored by the NDP and the Greens.

    Let's now see if she and her Opposition Party actually meant what she said in her Throne Speech, OK?

Teaser bills? The NDP and Greens supported those bills in principle but for political reasons they voted no. You already admitted that.
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flamingfingers wrote:^^Four elections. Each time the NDP have increased the number of seats won. Quite remarkable considering their standing in 2001. I guess there are people out there who have decided the 'dismal decade of the 1990s' were a fearmongering tactic by Gordo. Pity how many people were and still are willing to accept this brainwashing.


77-2
46-33
49-35
49-34
43-41

Sure looks like 5 in a row to me. You can try spinning it anyway you want FF but then again we've all seen your math skills at work in the past haven't we ;)
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^^They did not vote No. They ignored both bills and went directly to a confidence vote. Read Hansard.
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    flamingfingers wrote:^^They did not vote No. They ignored both bills and went directly to a confidence vote. Read Hansard.
Hmm . . .

The Liberals were outvoted on two bills in the legislature, including one that reversed the party’s long-standing opposition to banning corporate and union donations for political parties.
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/b-c ... e94326c93e


Not to mention the fact that I watched the NDP and Green MLA's stand to vote NO on each bill. But carry on with your alternative facts!
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