Transportation of petroleum products

[Smurf]

That is why I stay away from those sites they grab a small excerpt from something, misinterpret it and then hope people will get sucked into believing it and some do. Look at Greenpeace and the crap they have been caught doing, yet the weak minded still believe in what they say. Sometimes their causes are good but the way they work is mostly totally deceptive and lies.

I actually have no idea if 10% remediation is reasonable or not because I have no idea what is ready to be done or how long it has been ready. Without pertinent information how can one know if it is good or bad?

The oil spill is bad but I wonder if the same amount of oil was hauled by transport truck or train from the same point to point what the result would be. We will never know, but the amount of oil that goes through these pipelines would clog our highways with trucks and very likely cause numerous spills and accidents. Think Lac-Mégantic.

Enough on remediation so back to the topic and as far as I am concerned pipelines are the way to go. The ultimate would be no transportation, but I think we all know in the real world that is not going to happen for a very long time.

[lasnomadas]

Then, as usual, we will just have to agree to disagree. Please don't imply that everyone who is anti-bitumen export is 'weak-minded'. I don't imply that all tar sands promoters are weak-minded, but I do think their opinions are money-motivated, whereas the anti-fossil fuel movement is motivated by a need to protect the environment.

[spooker]

At what point do we get off our collective butts and stop taking the easy way out of continuing to use (or overuse) fossil fuels?

If we continue to spend money on extending our dependence on oil (developing ways to transport and refine bitumen) then we're just helping to guarantee that we're f'd at some point when we realize that we haven't done enough to make real strides on alternatives (because it costs more or it's too hard)

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[maryjane48]

i picked other because it should stay in the ground

[Carrs Landing Viking]

[off topic.

[Queen K]

off topic

[Dizzy1]

i picked other because it should stay in the ground

But it won't.

[lasnomadas]

Well, it won't be transported across B.C., that's for sure. Maybe Rachel and Justin will just have to settle for KeystoneXL.

[Dizzy1]

Well, it won't be transported across B.C., that's for sure. Maybe Rachel and Justin will just have to settle for KeystoneXL.

It already does and will continue to do so. Pipeline, rail, truck, doesn't really matter

[lasnomadas]

That's what you think. That 60+ year old pipeline will be decommissioned before KM ever gets shovels in the ground for another one. And no, bitumen won't be transported by train or truck across B.C. either. If Alberta wants to ship conventional oil to China, F.N. and the environmentalists might agree to that. But if Alberta thinks they can threaten B.C. with turning off the oil tap, fine. We'll just ship our own oil down to our refineries. If we don't have enough, we'll simply import it from the US (just as we have done for years anyway).

[maryjane48]

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/204805 ... n-pipeline


if you invested in this i would suggest uninvesting .

[Urbane]

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/204805/BC-to-intervene-on-pipeline


if you invested in this i would suggest uninvesting .

Maybe time to invest in the railways since that's how a lot of the petroleum products will move.

[mikest2]

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/204805/BC-to-intervene-on-pipeline


if you invested in this i would suggest uninvesting .

Don't invest in any insurance carriers that insure rail or truck. Remember Lac Megantic ?

[maryjane48]

what makes you think bc cant ban the rail truck transport of dilbit in bc ? why are you for something that dangerous ? do you not care about your fellow bcer ?

[lesliepaul]

what makes you think bc cant ban the rail truck transport of dilbit in bc ? why are you for something that dangerous ? do you not care about your fellow bcer ?

I would say YOU do not care about your fellow B.C.er............blind to so much in your little world.