ICBC a mess....
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There is one elephant in the room, or more accurate yet, ungulate! Urban-deer populations are swelling as municipal councils allow BC towns to turn into petting-zoos. ICBC, the largest stakeholder in the urban-deer crisis, refuses to get involved as they know they will be trolled by ARAs. Their cowardly board and CEO of ICBC should be replaced.
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HG, your comment is irrelevant because you have jumped the gun, as usual. The NDP has had, what?.....a couple of weeks to straighten out the messes left by the Christy Liberals. That's not enough time to deserve the mud-slinging I've seen on this ICBC thread and many others.
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Of course we can all hope that the NDP get the number of overpaid managers under control. But the fact remains that the kids and pals of the Liberals for years collected $150,000 per year and did little for it. There is now a lineup of NDP supporters and kids who want in.
And we can hope the NDP puts an end to racking up the debt at Ferries, Hydro, BCBC, and ICBC. But when they start being honest and admitting they're running a deficit, the trolls on here will be out in force, ranting about socialist mismanagement, leftist corruption, and how we need a return to the party of the 1%ers.
And we can hope the NDP puts an end to racking up the debt at Ferries, Hydro, BCBC, and ICBC. But when they start being honest and admitting they're running a deficit, the trolls on here will be out in force, ranting about socialist mismanagement, leftist corruption, and how we need a return to the party of the 1%ers.
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bob vernon wrote:Of course we can all hope that the NDP get the number of overpaid managers under control. .
Oh man did this make me laugh. Yes, that's what the NDP is known for, getting spending under control at crown corporations like ICBC. Oh man, the naivete is off the charts. Neither the NDP nor the Liberals deserve to govern this province. They are both awful when it comes to corruption in our Crown Corporations.
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^^ Are you now insinuating that you are a Green Party supporter? Or is there some fringe party that you think is more capable of getting ICBC back on track than the BCLP, NDP or Greens?
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Bob Vernon
Glad you mentioned BC Ferries as one of the corps that need to be looked at - hope this post won't go off topic as we are discussing ICBC but this goes to just how grossly overpaid the Crown corp execs are, not just ICBC - and why our costs to utilize these services leave moths flying out of our wallets! I hope the investigation doesn't stop with ICBC - ALL the Crown corps need a good dusting and purging of unnecessary and ridiculous overhead!
http://www.bcferries.com/files/AboutBCF ... losure.pdf
Glad you mentioned BC Ferries as one of the corps that need to be looked at - hope this post won't go off topic as we are discussing ICBC but this goes to just how grossly overpaid the Crown corp execs are, not just ICBC - and why our costs to utilize these services leave moths flying out of our wallets! I hope the investigation doesn't stop with ICBC - ALL the Crown corps need a good dusting and purging of unnecessary and ridiculous overhead!
http://www.bcferries.com/files/AboutBCF ... losure.pdf
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I was always wondering how the former government and ICBC could claim there were fewer accidents after raising all the speed limits, then 2 weeks later claim there were more accidents saying they need to raise our rates.
I know that the last time I insured my car my rates went up $60.00 for a 3 month period. Without any changes, no tickets, accidents or anything.
That was days before the change in government.
I know that the last time I insured my car my rates went up $60.00 for a 3 month period. Without any changes, no tickets, accidents or anything.
That was days before the change in government.
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Good thing Christie balanced the books. Biggest con job since "The Sting".
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lets just say
the ones at the top of the bus (ICBC)
should be tossed from the drivers seat
as they have managed to to derail the train.
oh maybe there bonus was not enough
i thought they got the bonus because they needed
to keep the best at the wheel.
time to toss them off the bus and into the real world
personally i think I'd do a much better job of driving that bus
the ones at the top of the bus (ICBC)
should be tossed from the drivers seat
as they have managed to to derail the train.
oh maybe there bonus was not enough
i thought they got the bonus because they needed
to keep the best at the wheel.
time to toss them off the bus and into the real world
personally i think I'd do a much better job of driving that bus
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rookie314 wrote:Good thing Christie balanced the books. Biggest con job since "The Sting".
You summed it up with VERY FEW WORDS.............well done!
Time will expose how 16 years of B.C. Liberal leadership mismanaged more than can be imagined. All the while portraying what an amazing job they have done..........jobs, balanced budgets, affordable living.........the bragging was endless. Now we have to depend on an NDP government to unravel all of it and probably only to their own satisfaction. BUT, while unravelling all of it they, with the help of a few green losers will attempt to shut down the B.C. economy.
To turn it around our government will require that the bottom half of B.C. earners trying to make a living here will be, as usual the ones who have to "tighten their belts" to save the wealthy.
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The NDP have had 16 years to read and and follow the information in ICBC's rate increase submissions and financial statements.
So they need MORE time to figure out which end is up? Analogous to the Republicans and "repeal and replace Obamacare". The NDP have been chucking peanuts and fomenting conspiracy theories for 16 years. Now all of a sudden, "everything is new" and they need more time to figure it out?
That's either stupidity or utter incompetence on the part of the BC NDP - and either one ain't good in government, but it looks like both.
http://www.icbc.com/about-icbc/newsroom/Pages/2016Aug25.aspx
All there in black and white, and more details available upon request.
http://www.icbc.com/about-icbc/company-info/Documents/annual-report-2015/ar-15.pdf
Lots and lots of detail there. Audited too...
So the BC NDP didn't know that ICBC couldn't support a "rate freeze" when they promised it? Horsefeathers. Either that or they really don't know how to read a financial statement.
So they need MORE time to figure out which end is up? Analogous to the Republicans and "repeal and replace Obamacare". The NDP have been chucking peanuts and fomenting conspiracy theories for 16 years. Now all of a sudden, "everything is new" and they need more time to figure it out?
That's either stupidity or utter incompetence on the part of the BC NDP - and either one ain't good in government, but it looks like both.
http://www.icbc.com/about-icbc/newsroom/Pages/2016Aug25.aspx
All there in black and white, and more details available upon request.
http://www.icbc.com/about-icbc/company-info/Documents/annual-report-2015/ar-15.pdf
Lots and lots of detail there. Audited too...
So the BC NDP didn't know that ICBC couldn't support a "rate freeze" when they promised it? Horsefeathers. Either that or they really don't know how to read a financial statement.
The middle path - everything in moderation, and everything in its time and order.
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For those of you who are wishing that ICBC would get a new CEO, your prayers have been answered. If anyone can straighten out that mess (with the help of David Eby, of course) it's feisty little Joy McPhail.
Now I'll just sit back and wait for the BCLP attack dogs to show up.
Now I'll just sit back and wait for the BCLP attack dogs to show up.
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Hard times are coming our way.
It's like getting the fox to guard the hen house How could things have turned out any different?
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/brit ... -1.4245833
It's like getting the fox to guard the hen house How could things have turned out any different?
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/brit ... -1.4245833
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I find it interesting that some people who are content seeing private corporations grossly overpay executives are pretty bent out of shape over government executives being grossly overpaid. Aw heck, even if the wage isn't a gross overpayment they're bent out of shape that civil servants aren't paid 'servant' wages.
We still pay those wages through either consumer purchases or our insurance premiums, or taxes, but for some reason people think math works differently between the government and private sector.
The liberals obviously misused funds, I'm more *bleep* about that than anything.
We still pay those wages through either consumer purchases or our insurance premiums, or taxes, but for some reason people think math works differently between the government and private sector.
The liberals obviously misused funds, I'm more *bleep* about that than anything.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:bob vernon wrote:Of course we can all hope that the NDP get the number of overpaid managers under control. .
Oh man did this make me laugh. Yes, that's what the NDP is known for, getting spending under control at crown corporations like ICBC. Oh man, the naivete is off the charts. Neither the NDP nor the Liberals deserve to govern this province. They are both awful when it comes to corruption in our Crown Corporations.
I know you don't believe the new audits are warranted, but when we look at ICBC's mess, we do have to wonder what else may be swept under a rug.
As WW3 develops, no one is going to be dissing the "preppers." What have you done?