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Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby flamingfingers » Aug 22nd, 2017, 1:23 pm

Pens raising Atlantic salmon in the waters off the coast have been involved with many problems - sea lice, diseases, escapes, and this latest one needs to be addressed and action taken:

Solar eclipse’s tides blamed for broken net, up to 305,000 Atlantic salmon dumped into waters near San Juans.


http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new ... -you-want/
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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby gman313 » Aug 22nd, 2017, 1:29 pm

too late
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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby Rwede » Aug 22nd, 2017, 1:35 pm

Why aren't Trudeau and Horgan dealing with this?

Couple of BUMS they are!
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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby flamingfingers » Aug 22nd, 2017, 1:41 pm

^^Why didn't Harper and Clark deal with this over a decade ago, eh?

Couple of idiots is what they were!!!
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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby gman313 » Aug 22nd, 2017, 1:44 pm

salmon farms have been in north America since the 70s. smaller scale but they have been around and steadily growing. can't blame clark, harper, trudeau or horgan for it.

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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby flamingfingers » Aug 22nd, 2017, 1:49 pm

Why do people who fancy themselves "fiscal conservatives" not scream at hidden debt accumulated in the past dozen years? Or, do they only object to spending on social programs?

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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby Carrs Landing Viking » Aug 22nd, 2017, 1:50 pm

It's an American fish farm. Let them deal with it.
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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby flamingfingers » Aug 22nd, 2017, 1:52 pm

If you lived in Victoria and looked easterly, you could see the San Juans. May not mean much to the Okanaganites tho, eh?
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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby Rwede » Aug 22nd, 2017, 3:11 pm

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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby ferri » Aug 22nd, 2017, 4:13 pm

WASHINGTON DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE

WDFW encourages anglers to fish for escaped Atlantic salmon

http://wdfw.wa.gov/news/aug2217b/
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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby flamingfingers » Aug 22nd, 2017, 4:19 pm

Cypress Island where the net ripped and released over 300,000 mature Atlantic salmon is a very short distance from the mouth of the Fraser River - a major waterway for breeding salmon to reach their spawning grounds and for immature salmon to access the sea after hatching. There is virtually no hope that all of the Atlantic salmon released will be caught before they arrive at the mouth of the Fraser..

It's time to get these ocean net pens out of the ocean and onto land so they pose less threat to our wild salmon stocks!!!
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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby hobbyguy » Aug 22nd, 2017, 4:54 pm

http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1663604,00.html

That's probably the best summation of the basic input/output problem with fish farms.

Carp - well - yuck! But that is indeed what Chinese peasant farmers grow. Virtually no protein input, they just chuck all their kitchen scraps and spoiled veggies in the pond.

Makes me wonder if we couldn't go a little further down the food chain for fish farming, say to Rock Cod (mmm...great fish and chips!). Or Kelp Greenling (good eating too!).
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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby stuphoto » Aug 22nd, 2017, 5:00 pm

Carrs Landing Viking wrote:It's an American fish farm. Let them deal with it.

I made a startling discovery just yesterday. Fish Don't Respect our Borders!
So it's our problem too.

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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby Hassel99 » Aug 22nd, 2017, 5:23 pm

flamingfingers wrote:Cypress Island where the net ripped and released over 300,000 mature Atlantic salmon is a very short distance from the mouth of the Fraser River - a major waterway for breeding salmon to reach their spawning grounds and for immature salmon to access the sea after hatching. There is virtually no hope that all of the Atlantic salmon released will be caught before they arrive at the mouth of the Fraser..

It's time to get these ocean net pens out of the ocean and onto land so they pose less threat to our wild salmon stocks!!!



Feel free to write Trump a letter outlining your concerns about the United States Fisheries

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Re: Get them out of our OCEAN!!!

Postby flamingfingers » Aug 22nd, 2017, 5:26 pm

hg:

Nothing wrong with carp flesh - carp can survive in veg matter but prefers to scavange on the bottom for worms, crustaceans etc. It is for sure an ugly fish and it pretty bony as well which people don't like. You cactch them almost anywhere - Okanagan Lake included. Same with whitefish - they eat about the same thing carp do and have a WONDERFUL and tasty flesh!! None I know of in Okanagan Lake but I did catch one on a trip up around Lilloett.

Ling cod can be caught in Okanagan Lake but are not at all 'sporty' to catch - hook one and it's like hauling up part of an old log!

I don't buy Sockeye Salmon - too dry, harsh taste and too expensive!! I do occasionally buy pink salmon, white spring or coho. But I prefer to treat myself with a beautiful piece of sablefish or if I can't get that, halibut.

West Coast mussels when in season, usually November to end January are a special treat - get some and you will never eat PEI mussels again. I don't know anything about freshwater mussels - the edible kind, but that might be something to learn about.

Nothing wrong about 'eating lower on the hog'.
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