45171
45622

More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby rookie314 » Sep 6th, 2017, 12:31 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:
rookie314 wrote:So why don't you volunteer?


how do you know I don't? What an ignorant comment, but what else is new.


Because you're complaining about the teachers not volunteering. So do you?
rookie314
Übergod
 
Posts: 1442
Likes: 401 posts
Liked in: 351 posts
Joined: Jun 11th, 2005, 10:00 am

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby The Green Barbarian » Sep 6th, 2017, 12:35 pm

rookie314 wrote:
Because you're complaining about the teachers not volunteering.


I am?
Pierre Trudeau was an epic disaster for Canada. Like father like son.

Rwede likes this post.
User avatar
The Green Barbarian
Buddha of the Board
 
Posts: 23126
Likes: 8376 posts
Liked in: 10000 posts
Joined: Sep 16th, 2010, 9:13 am

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby rustled » Sep 6th, 2017, 1:11 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:
rookie314 wrote:So why don't you volunteer?


how do you know I don't? What an ignorant comment, but what else is new.

So: GB points out how BCTF activism had made it more difficult for teachers to feel good about volunteering for extra curricular activities, and your takeaway is
rookie314 wrote:Because you're complaining about the teachers not volunteering. So do you?

Clearly, some of you do not want this thread to be about the BCTF, and want to make it about something else entirely.

But that is what it is about: how the BCTF's past actions have had a negative impact on the effective the delivery of public education. The most negative impact has been this "unappreciated" narrative, which they created for their own political purposes and you promulgate for yours.

8 people like this post.
rustled
Lord of the Board
 
Posts: 4177
Likes: 4950 posts
Liked in: 4097 posts
Joined: Dec 26th, 2010, 1:47 pm

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby George+ » Sep 6th, 2017, 1:14 pm

Teachers spend endless hours volunteering with zippo for pay or often even acknowledgement.
In the US of A most coaches etc. Are a paid position.
That is why they often have way better teams.

All the teachers working at the BCTF have volunteered also.
They rotate in and out of the system.

rookie314 likes this post.
George+
Guru
 
Posts: 9633
Likes: 4 posts
Liked in: 648 posts
Joined: Oct 10th, 2011, 12:08 pm
Location: Oyama

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby LordEd » Sep 6th, 2017, 1:23 pm

George+ wrote:Teachers spend endless hours volunteering with zippo for pay or often even acknowledgement.

PEOPLE spend endless hours volunteering with zippo for pay or often event acknowledgement. Most PEOPLE don't stop volunteering their services in order to leverage their employer.

7 people like this post.
LordEd
Lord of the Board
 
Posts: 3138
Likes: 9 posts
Liked in: 1562 posts
Joined: Apr 3rd, 2008, 9:22 am

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby rustled » Sep 6th, 2017, 1:27 pm

George+ wrote:Teachers spend endless hours volunteering with zippo for pay or often even acknowledgement.
In the US of A most coaches etc. Are a paid position.
That is why they often have way better teams.

All the teachers working at the BCTF have volunteered also.
They rotate in and out of the system.

^^See?

The topic is BCTF b.s. Many posters here believe the BCTF's continuing stream of b.s. to support their own political activism has been detrimental to the delivery of public education in BC. Instead of sticking to the topic, George+ posts about how underappreciated teachers are, and next thing you know someone will come on here and claim this thread is full of people who bash teachers.

8 people like this post.
rustled
Lord of the Board
 
Posts: 4177
Likes: 4950 posts
Liked in: 4097 posts
Joined: Dec 26th, 2010, 1:47 pm

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby Rider59 » Sep 6th, 2017, 1:30 pm

rustled wrote:
George+ wrote:Teachers spend endless hours volunteering with zippo for pay or often even acknowledgement.
In the US of A most coaches etc. Are a paid position.
That is why they often have way better teams.

All the teachers working at the BCTF have volunteered also.
They rotate in and out of the system.

^^See?

The topic is BCTF b.s. Many posters here believe the BCTF's continuing stream of b.s. to support their own political activism has been detrimental to the delivery of public education in BC. Instead of sticking to the topic, George+ posts about how underappreciated teachers are, and next thing you know someone will come on here and claim this thread is full of people who bash teachers.


But for some (most?) of the left here, all they know is how to play or support the "victim'. LOL

4 people like this post.
Rider59
Fledgling
 
Posts: 288
Likes: 139 posts
Liked in: 241 posts
Joined: Aug 17th, 2016, 10:02 am

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby rustled » Sep 6th, 2017, 1:31 pm

LordEd wrote:
George+ wrote:Teachers spend endless hours volunteering with zippo for pay or often even acknowledgement.

PEOPLE spend endless hours volunteering with zippo for pay or often event acknowledgement. Most PEOPLE don't stop volunteering their services in order to leverage their employer.

Teachers must do this when they're ordered to by the BCTF, whether they personally agree with it or not. I've known plenty who didn't agree with it.

How often are other employees ordered by an organization like this one to stop doing something they love to do, when what they love to do is something over which that organization has no jurisdiction?

3 people like this post.
rustled
Lord of the Board
 
Posts: 4177
Likes: 4950 posts
Liked in: 4097 posts
Joined: Dec 26th, 2010, 1:47 pm

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby rustled » Sep 6th, 2017, 1:32 pm

rustled wrote:
George+ wrote:Teachers spend endless hours volunteering with zippo for pay or often even acknowledgement.
In the US of A most coaches etc. Are a paid position.
That is why they often have way better teams.

All the teachers working at the BCTF have volunteered also.
They rotate in and out of the system.

^^See?

The topic is BCTF b.s. Many posters here believe the BCTF's continuing stream of b.s. to support their own political activism has been detrimental to the delivery of public education in BC. Instead of sticking to the topic, George+ posts about how underappreciated teachers are, and next thing you know someone will come on here and claim this thread is full of people who bash teachers.

Rider59 wrote:But for some (most?) of the left here, all they know is how to play or support the "victim'. LOL

And the BCTF counts on this and plays them for all they're worth.

3 people like this post.
rustled
Lord of the Board
 
Posts: 4177
Likes: 4950 posts
Liked in: 4097 posts
Joined: Dec 26th, 2010, 1:47 pm

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby Old Techie » Sep 6th, 2017, 4:03 pm

Chyren wrote:This thread really shows how ridiculous some people are.

Teachers work hard and deserve to get paid for it. The government has been ignoring investing in schools for a long time and finally the courts agreed. end of story there.

The teachers that work in my kids' school are there early, and leave late. They work at home at night. They work to help my children read and write and learn. As a parent I support them and they support our kids. They are coaches and volunteers and don't get paid anything to do these extra jobs.

If you people that seem to bash teachers because you feel they make too much money and have pensions and such should really look into what it takes to be one. They're educated and believe in our kids!

Time for people to really stop complaining about what is not a real problem at all.

Thank you to teachers.


Old Techie wrote:Clearly the gist of the thread being that the BCTF is bad, went right over your head!



Chyren wrote:
When you go over the bulk of this thread its bashing the actual teachers as much as the BCTF.



That, the ones who stand in support of the BCTF, and who opt to ask how high, when the BCTF says jump, pretty much bring upon themselves.

If teachers as a whole wish for their profession to regain the level of respect it once had, the BCTF needs to be done away with.

The BCTF has always behaved in a radical confrontational manner, has no qualms about using children as pawns in their strategy, and quite frankly is never content with the outcome of any negotiations they enter into, regardless of political party even.

Basically they justify their existence by being perpetual discontented whiners, and that just doesn't come across as an admiral quality in a public education related sense.
"Just because some people are fueled by drama doesn't mean you have to attend the performance."

5 people like this post.
User avatar
Old Techie
Übergod
 
Posts: 1611
Likes: 1276 posts
Liked in: 1990 posts
Joined: Apr 27th, 2013, 3:47 pm

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby rookie314 » Sep 8th, 2017, 9:56 pm

So has the government.
rookie314
Übergod
 
Posts: 1442
Likes: 401 posts
Liked in: 351 posts
Joined: Jun 11th, 2005, 10:00 am

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby alfred2 » Sep 9th, 2017, 11:15 am

George+ wrote:Teachers spend endless hours volunteering with zippo for pay or often even acknowledgement.
In the US of A most coaches etc. Are a paid position.
That is why they often have way better teams.

All the teachers working at the BCTF have volunteered also.
They rotate in and out of the system.

when you voulonteer , it means no pay. george you are into money all the time.
alfred2
Übergod
 
Posts: 1913
Likes: 4 posts
Liked in: 766 posts
Joined: Jun 29th, 2013, 11:02 am

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby Leifer » Sep 9th, 2017, 3:46 pm

Teachers spend endless hours volunteering with zippo for pay or often even acknowledgement.

That always cracks me up.
Lots of people volunteer for coaching kids in various sports, scouts, cadets, food banks, fund raisers, clubs, and societies.
Most of us don't need a "acknowledgement"or renumeration....we do it because it is the right thing to do and gives us a chance to pay back all the adults who volunteered when we were kids.
Two essential strategies for success.

1) Never reveal all you know
2)

2 people like this post.
User avatar
Leifer
Board Meister
 
Posts: 350
Likes: 150 posts
Liked in: 497 posts
Joined: Nov 19th, 2007, 9:43 pm
Location: West Kelowna

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby Dawggss » Sep 9th, 2017, 10:39 pm

Leifer wrote:
Teachers spend endless hours volunteering with zippo for pay or often even acknowledgement.

That always cracks me up.
Lots of people volunteer for coaching kids in various sports, scouts, cadets, food banks, fund raisers, clubs, and societies.
Most of us don't need a "acknowledgement"or renumeration....we do it because it is the right thing to do and gives us a chance to pay back all the adults who volunteered when we were kids.


Wonder how many would volunteer if their children weren't involved in the activity?

This discussion will not achieve anything as there are too many variables - I hope the question I just posed points that out.
User avatar
Dawggss
 
Posts: 62
Likes: 68 posts
Liked in: 39 posts
Joined: Jul 19th, 2009, 6:28 am

Re: More BS Courtesy of the BCTF!

Postby Leifer » Sep 10th, 2017, 12:09 am

Wonder how many would volunteer if their children weren't involved in the activity?

There are plenty of adults out there devoting their free time to various causes, clubs, minor sports, and societies without having their children involved.
Unpaid, unsung, and sometimes unappreciated....yet they soldier on.

Good on some teachers for volunteering outside of regular work hours.
But let's not pretend they are special, or somehow better than all the other good people volunteering out there.
Two essential strategies for success.

1) Never reveal all you know
2)

Carrs Landing Viking likes this post.
User avatar
Leifer
Board Meister
 
Posts: 350
Likes: 150 posts
Liked in: 497 posts
Joined: Nov 19th, 2007, 9:43 pm
Location: West Kelowna

PreviousNext

Return to B.C.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: alfred2, Jonrox, LordEd and 6 guests