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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby Smurf » Sep 4th, 2017, 3:24 pm

You can't fix stupid.
Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you'll understand what little chance you have of changing others.

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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby flamingfingers » Sep 4th, 2017, 3:54 pm

So he 'pinched the butt out' - okay, WHERE did he put the burning end that he 'pinched off'????

In his lap, on the car floor, the passenger seat???

I doubt it!! He probably stuck his hand out and pinched off the burning end onto the roadway, then dropped the pinched butt almost immediately. The still burning end he pinched off is quite capable of starting a fire - even being blown to the side of the road where it could easily set fire to dry vegetation.

Yup..can't fix stupid!!
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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby Opeeved » Sep 4th, 2017, 4:18 pm

flamingfingers wrote:So he 'pinched the butt out' - okay, WHERE did he put the burning end that he 'pinched off'????

In his lap, on the car floor, the passenger seat???

I doubt it!! He probably stuck his hand out and pinched off the burning end onto the roadway, then dropped the pinched butt almost immediately. The still burning end he pinched off is quite capable of starting a fire - even being blown to the side of the road where it could easily set fire to dry vegetation.

Yup..can't fix stupid!!
as a fellow smoker, you know "exactly" where the ember went. Please please don't pretend otherwise :)
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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby Opeeved » Sep 4th, 2017, 4:20 pm

Smurf wrote:You can't fix stupid.

And..... one can't fix righteousness. Touche :)
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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby flamingfingers » Sep 4th, 2017, 4:28 pm

as a fellow smoker, you know "exactly" where the ember went. Please please don't pretend otherwise :)


Yes, it went out the car window, onto the highway and possibly into dry vegetation alongside the road. Do you think otherwise?
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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby Opeeved » Sep 4th, 2017, 4:39 pm

No. I don't.
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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby GordonH » Sep 4th, 2017, 5:05 pm

When see hundreds cigarette butts along side the road in any direction I go for a walk.
All that tells me is smokers are huge litter bugs, it only takes 1 to start a fire.

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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby flamingfingers » Sep 4th, 2017, 5:21 pm

GordonH wrote:When see hundreds cigarette butts along side the road in any direction I go for a walk.
All that tells me is smokers are huge litter bugs, it only takes 1 to start a fire.


There is NO excuse for this kind of litter. Or or any OTHER kind of litter.
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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby Smurf » Sep 4th, 2017, 6:33 pm

Are you insinuating that is not stupid to throw garbage possibly on fire or not out of your car onto the road or wherever. That says a lot about you, for sure.

Believe me I am not being righteous to say that throwing out garbage and or littering is wrong and stupid. People that do it are absolute slobs. Kind of like carrying out whatever you carry in. I like the world we live in and can't stand slobs that continuously try to ruin it with their garbage.
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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby flamingfingers » Sep 4th, 2017, 6:39 pm

Smurf wrote:
Are you insinuating that is not stupid to throw garbage possibly on fire or not out of your car onto the road or wherever. That says a lot about you, for sure


Was that directed at ME, Smurf??? Have you even bothered to read what I have posted?
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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby Smurf » Sep 4th, 2017, 6:45 pm

No FF it definitely was not. You have been very plain about your feelings on littering.

I actually copied this and forgot to quote it. My bad but this is where it was aimed.

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Opeeved wrote:
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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby MrSandman » Sep 4th, 2017, 11:25 pm

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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby Catsumi » Sep 5th, 2017, 8:13 am

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Re: Smoking Scofflaws

Postby NotNorthAnymore » Sep 5th, 2017, 4:14 pm

GordonH wrote:When see hundreds cigarette butts along side the road in any direction I go for a walk.
All that tells me is smokers are huge litter bugs, it only takes 1 to start a fire.

IMO - A possible fix to this butt littering is as follows:

A 10¢ per cigarette recycle fee imposed on each and every cigarette sold.
Loose tobacco fee to be equal to the number of cigarettes that can be made.
15¢ for small cigars - $1 for any cigar costing more than $5 each.

5¢ refundable at a recycle depot - the other 5¢ used for overhead and disposal costs.
Same refund on everything 5¢.

In short order every butt would be cleaned up by those that want to make money doing recycle.
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