Bc Libs responsible for opioid deaths ?

[LordEd]

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[dirtybiker]

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[LordEd]

So in summary, no.

[Queen K]

I think the dealers cutting fentaynl are responsible for opioid deaths and we need more judges who are less limp wristed, panty waisteds wimps to start dealing out sentences reflecting the role dealers and gangs play in dishing out deaths in BC. WE have a thread called " The New Overdose Solution Thread" which discusses every aspect of this reality too.

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So in summary, no.

We've reached an agreement then.

[maryjane48]

yes but the facts are the bc pharmarcy changed the formula . why ? they say to stop abuse but people were not getting high from the old mix . methadone doesnt get you high like street opiates did.

so when they changed it the withdrall symptoms came back quicker resulting in more people turning to street drugs to stop the withdralls.


the question posed by the article is why did they change the formula and on whose orders ? follow the money .

the other thread is about solutions. this thread is about who made the murderoous choice to switch mixes

[LordEd]

I'll always agree to a researched positions over baseless conspiracy accusations.

[maryjane48]

try sticking to the topic . you may not like the facts but you you cant change them . there is going to be more on this coming out of vancouver where the article is from . someone will have to answer why the mix was changed and who ordered it

[Queen K]

Yes, but in this case, the research is from the addicts themselves, blaming the government for making them more addicted and unable to kick the habit.

[dirtybiker]

That was fun, now,

No political power forces anyone to take an opioid.

A switch from Methadone to Methadose does not force people to take an opioid.

A Doctor does not force a patient to take either.

A search for relief of pain, real or imagined does not even force any of the above.

It falls directly on the individual.

If the Medical System had their way I would be a drug addled junkie also.
I took personnel responsibility, coupled with my own critical thought and will
to refuse meds and/or take minimal amounts of said meds prescribed because
I did not want to become habituated to them. I also kept a log of the use of them
to take less, less frequently till I took, and now take, none, not even a Tylenol or Aleve..Period.

Do I hurt ? Yes
Is it easy ? No.

I use other methods, like diet, a Personnel Exercise Coach, and extensive work
with a Kinesiologist to wage my war against my pains from a massive amount
of blunt force internal injuries and broken body parts that most do not survive.

So don't think for a moment I don't know of which I speak.

I paddle my own canoe !

[Queen K]

try sticking to the topic . you may not like the facts but you you cant change them . there is going to be more on this coming out of vancouver where the article is from . someone will have to answer why the mix was changed and who ordered it

We weren't successful but will try to behave now.

The mix was likely changed to cheapen the doses down.