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Taxpayer funding of political parties is Horgan's gift to the next Liberal leader

MIKE SMYTH

September 21, 2017


If you really want to understand why the NDP-Green coalition stabbed B.C. taxpayers in the back by funnelling millions of public dollars to political parties, keep a large bottle of Tylenol handy.

The excuses and explanations from Premier John Horgan and Green party Leader Andrew Weaver are so twisted and tortured, they’re enough to give you a migraine as you listen.

Horgan is the guy who insisted during the May election that any suggestion he would pump tax money into the bank accounts of political parties was just fake news.

The accusation came primarily from then-premier Christy Clark, who correctly warned voters an NDP government would force taxpayers to finance political parties.

“More distortion, more fabrication, more making-stuff-up by the premier,” Horgan said back then.

But there was Horgan on Wednesday, still playing defence after he did precisely what Clark predicted.

Why did Horgan do it? He said things changed after the NDP failed to win a majority victory in the election.

It was only after the NDP entered into a power-sharing deal with the Greens that public financing of political parties became an option.

But Weaver insists it wasn’t his idea either, effectively dumping the whole stinking mess back into Horgan’s lap.


SNIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP


The excuses are pathetic, especially when you start piecing together clues that this greedy cash grab was the plan all along.

Consider this: In 2016, Horgan introduced a private member’s bill in the legislature calling for an “independent review” of political fundraising. The bill said the committee would study “alternative financing structures, including public financing.”

Then in 2017 — right before the election — Horgan introduced the exact same bill, but this time the reference to “public financing” was quietly dropped.

What does that tell you? They didn’t want to hand Clark and the Liberals any more ammunition to attack them on the campaign trail, that’s what.

But make no mistake: By breaking the promise and taking the public’s money, Horgan and Weaver have done nothing but help the Liberals.


The new government has given an early gift to their enemies — one that will keep on giving.

Whoever emerges as the new Liberal leader — and a whole bunch of hopefuls are about to officially launch their campaigns — will now throw Horgan’s promises back in his face, and beat up the NDP for this from now until the next election.

Cleaning up big money in B.C. politics was supposed to be a positive, popular accomplishment for this new government. Instead, Horgan and Weaver have left themselves open to attack, and the Liberals love it.

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Thanks John. Even tho this hypocritical gift was unintentional. [icon_lol2.gif]
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Sleazy plus stupid is a bad combination.
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Urbane wrote:Sleazy plus stupid is a bad combination.


Yet one that manifests itself time and time again where the NDP are involved.
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The speed at which the NDP and Greens bellied up to the public trough surprised even me.
That has to be some kind record...even for the socialists. :135:

And watching Horgan and Weaver point the finger at each other for this abomination..... :swear:
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Leifer wrote:The speed at which the NDP and Greens bellied up to the public trough surprised even me.
That has to be some kind record...even for the socialists.
:135:

And watching Horgan and Weaver point the finger at each other for this abomination..... :swear:


Ditto!

But only the speed has surprised, nothing else as it's all standard NDP fare.
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And the BCLP needs all the 'gifts' they can get, after 16 years of lies, deceit, fraud, and corruption.
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Cactusflower wrote:And the BCLP needs all the 'gifts' they can get, after 16 years of lies, deceit, fraud, and corruption.


LOL.

Gift provided by 16 year NDP perennial losers, who first chance go directly back to their 1990 method of operations, deceit, fraud, and corruption.

After all their blathering the last 16yrs one would think that they'd aspire to raise the bar a little higher, but lo and behold they managed to lower it even further. [icon_lol2.gif]

I guess their puppet masters figure that if Trump can drain the swamp, and put the remaining scum in choice positions, the NDP can get away with it here too.

Former BCTF heads (Jim Sinclair) shouldn't qualify to be appointed bathroom monitors, let alone any other position.

It's getting a bit obvious that the BCTF is little more than a future NDP politician recruitment ground.
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You're confused. The Trump administration is the identical twin of the BC Liberal gang.
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Cactusflower wrote:And the BCLP needs all the 'gifts' they can get, after 16 years of lies, deceit, fraud, and corruption.


So do you actually think that taxpayer funding of the NDP politburo and now for their apparatchiks is acceptable? It is completely unethical, and a bald faced campaign lie.

The NDP are rotten to the core, always have been. The NDP only survived the reaction (a 77-2 spanking) to their last debacle of an attempt at so called governance by stealing union member dues. Now the NDP want to steal taxpayer funds?? Bunch of sticky fingered petty criminals and about as bright as a 5 watt bulb.

I had hopes for the Green party, but they are fast being dashed by their poor choice of the company they keep. I guess their momma's never told them not to associate with a bad crowd.

Lord knows the BC Liberals needed to smarten up and pay more attention to social capital needs (I do recognize that part of that was the 3 stooges NDP mayors undercutting everything they did try.) - but this NDP participation award so called government can't govern themselves let alone the province.

Somebody, please, replace the NDP with the Rhinoceros party - they were more competent and definitely more honest.
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hobbyguy wrote:So do you actually think that taxpayer funding of the NDP politburo and now for their apparatchiks is acceptable? It is completely unethical, and a bald faced campaign lie.

The NDP are rotten to the core, always have been. The NDP only survived the reaction (a 77-2 spanking) to their last debacle of an attempt at so called governance by stealing union member dues. Now the NDP want to steal taxpayer funds?? Bunch of sticky fingered petty criminals and about as bright as a 5 watt bulb.


Try such a stunt as a civilian and you'd find yourself up on charges of false pretenses or fraud, but do it as an NDP government and hey it's all good.

The prevention of this tax payer party funding scheme is of utmost importance, and could well also be the first step toward eradicating the NDP once and for all, given that the only way they seem to know how to access funding is by stealing it via whatever means possible.
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hobbyguy wrote:
Cactusflower wrote:And the BCLP needs all the 'gifts' they can get, after 16 years of lies, deceit, fraud, and corruption.


So do you actually think that taxpayer funding of the NDP politburo and now for their apparatchiks is acceptable? It is completely unethical, and a bald faced campaign lie.

The NDP are rotten to the core, always have been. The NDP only survived the reaction (a 77-2 spanking) to their last debacle of an attempt at so called governance by stealing union member dues. Now the NDP want to steal taxpayer funds?? Bunch of sticky fingered petty criminals and about as bright as a 5 watt bulb.

I had hopes for the Green party, but they are fast being dashed by their poor choice of the company they keep. I guess their momma's never told them not to associate with a bad crowd.

Lord knows the BC Liberals needed to smarten up and pay more attention to social capital needs (I do recognize that part of that was the 3 stooges NDP mayors undercutting everything they did try.) - but this NDP participation award so called government can't govern themselves let alone the province.

Somebody, please, replace the NDP with the Rhinoceros party - they were more competent and definitely more honest.


Your self-righteous indignation would be more acceptable if the BC Liberals weren't benefiting from this bill as well. I haven't been told that they've refused their share, have you?
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Cactusflower wrote:Your self-righteous indignation would be more acceptable if the BC Liberals weren't benefiting from this bill as well. I haven't been told that they've refused their share, have you?

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Anyone who can do math will recognize this bill is far, far more beneficial to the NDP, who struggle to get voluntary donations, than to the Liberals, who always raise considerably more than the NDP. And who is it least beneficial to? Us, the taxpayers. As usual.

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I'm not defending the bill as it was tabled; I'm simply pointing out that 'drama queen' reactions are merely partisan rants.
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https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews. ... money/amp/
Weaver also tried to say the new legislation doesn’t benefit the Greens.

“Actually the BC Green Party is hardly affected at all because we do not accept union and corporate donations. And the amount that we would get through this provisional transitional allowance is almost identical to now what we get through thousands and thousands of people donating small amounts.”

But you’re going to get almost $3-million over the next four years,” McComb pointed out. “Yes we, yes I believe that’s correct,” said Weaver
It's a 3M bribe to buy green support and Weaver knows it.
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