Money laundering

[Cactusflower]

Yes, mikest2, it is now the responsibility of the NDP, and I'm relieved that they're picking up the ball that the BC Liberals dropped. But, did they drop it or try to throw it out of bounds? I think we're going to see a lot of 'dropped BC Liberal balls' in the weeks and months to come.

[LordEd]

I did a search and did not find the articles you claim exist. That's happened before.

Just like a conspiracy sheep. Make grandiose claims about the superiority of your ability to see the truth, then have a temper tantrum and say you don't have time to support it.

Don't blame me if when challenged you have no means to back up your bleating. I have a life and choose to support my positions. I don't have time to make your arguments as well, nor do I have the desire as your repetitive mantra of 'search for yourself' supports my position that you have no basis of fact and can be discarded as a village idiot.

[Cactusflower]

If I had the time I would quote the entire articles here, but I don't. Flaming fingers gave you a link to pursue, but you obviously didn't because I don't see your rebuttal here. Could it be that you are in serious denial? You certainly can't be so inept that you don't know how to click on a link.

[LordEd]

If I had the time I would quote the entire articles here, but I don't.

I'll consider myself fortunate. I have no doubt you don't have the ability to make a concise argument and would just flood garbage with no commentary.

All baa and no wool. Keep repeating what your shepherds tell you what to think.

[LordEd]

Flaming has content and there was discussion. You have nothing but flaming.

[Cactusflower]

Say goodnight, m'lord. Your party lost.......get over it.

[LordEd]

Very good. And your arguments are also lost.

Good night. Go count some sheep.

[hobbyguy]

Casinos, gambling of all sorts are a dirty business.

Ask Glen Clark - remember "Casinogate"?

Ask Mike Harcourt - remember "Bingogate"?

Most of the Casino companies in BC were formed in the 1990s. e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_Casinos

There are really not any "clean hands" around that industry. Unfortunately, governments of all stripes are addicted to the revenue "cut".

[Cactusflower]

There you go again, HG, trying to defend the indefensible today by bringing up past Gordon Campbell-generated media scandals. As you are about to discover, the BC Liberals have always been dependent on the hundreds of thousands of dollars the casinos have 'donated' to the party.

From a CTV Vancouver news item April 10, 2014: Money Laundering Rampant in Casinos.
"By 2009, the BC Liberals had decided that blind eyes were more profitable than diligence when it came to supervision of gambling. They know there are costs in terms of lives ruined and families destroyed, but there are financial benefits to be had. Every now and then, police will complain or a story will appear in the media but politicians are well practiced at promising things will soon change. After reassuring words, everything goes back to normal. Nothing changes and the weak continue as victims."

[Urban Cowboy]

Casinos, gambling of all sorts are a dirty business.

Ask Glen Clark - remember "Casinogate"?

Ask Mike Harcourt - remember "Bingogate"?

Most of the Casino companies in BC were formed in the 1990s. e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_Casinos

There are really not any "clean hands" around that industry. Unfortunately, governments of all stripes are addicted to the revenue "cut".

Amazing how those pertinent little details always slip the minds of those incessantly on the hunt for Liberal bashing fodder.

Also a tad ironic how many of the issues the NDP fans keep rehashing to bash said Liberals, had their roots in NDP governance, taking money from BC Hydro, taking money from ICBC, gambling, etc.

Seems to always come back to Liberals do it equals bad, NDP do it it's all good.


@ Cactusflower - Seriously? Gambling has victims. Yes it does. So does alcoholism but I haven't seen the NDP nor Liberals make any moves to stop the revenues collected from liquor sales and gambling from coming in.

I could be wrong but I don't think the victims/families, of those addicted to alcohol or gambling, care one bit what government is in power, just that it's ruining their lives, meanwhile general revenue rakes in the windfall.

I've always felt it wrong for any government to be involved in promoting something destructive which they are. I mean when it comes to gambling, buying radio ads telling people "know your limit, stay within it" is little more than a smokescreen to appease a portion of the electorate, given they know dang well a gambling addict isn't going to be swayed by those ads one bit.

Methinks you need to be more careful what battles you choose.

[rustled]

There you go again, HG, trying to defend the indefensible today by bringing up past Gordon Campbell-generated media scandals. As you are about to discover, the BC Liberals have always been dependent on the hundreds of thousands of dollars the casinos have 'donated' to the party.they're '

From a CTV Vancouver news item April 10, 2014: Money Launderind Rampant in Casinos.
"By 2009, the BC Liberals had decided that blind eyes were more profitable than diligence when it came to supervision of gambling. They know there are costs in terms of lives ruined and families destroyed, but there are financial benefits to be had. Every now and then, police will complain or a story will appear in the media but politicians are well practiced at promising things will soon change. After reassuring words, everything goes back to normal. Nothing changes and the weak continue as victims."

OMG, you are absolutely shameless! Here's where that quote actually comes from:
https://in-sights.ca/2014/04/14/money-l ... -who-knew/
No wonder you don't "do" links. You hope to get away with nonsense like this.

Like others, I took up your challenge and found nothing in the MSM to support your claims about Coleman. BC has had the same problems other provinces have, and so far there has been nothing in any of the MSM stories I've read to support your allegations about Coleman. You clearly see only what you want to see, and process only what supports your narrow position.

[GordonH]

Gambling + money laundering = Mob (Godfather all over again)..... Oops my bad, little to dramatic

[rustled]

Money laundering has nothing to do with the Liberal party.

You need to stop making inflammatory statements.

And you need to pull your head out of ....the sand and start doing some research. Just one simple google search, ' what is Rich Coleman's involvement with casino money laundering?' will give you dozens of related media articles. Most of them pertain to the years when Coleman was the Minister responsible for gambling casinos and gaming grants. One article that stands out was the CTV Vancouver April 10, 2014 story: "money laundering rampant in casinos". Another is a headline from another publication around the same time,which reads: "Did Cabinet Seize Charity Money to Satisfy Casino Demands for Retractable Roof?"

Those are just two of many references to a very narrow search. I'm sure if you do a wider search of the BC Liberals' involvement with casino money laundering, you'll find additional information that will make you wonder why you ever said, "Money laundering has nothing to do with the BC Liberal party". But do you have the cajones to do it?

Absolutely shameless. The bolded quote above is from
http://vancouvernotvegas.ca/2011/09/vnv ... struction/
You misrepresent your sources in a lame attempt to bolster your efforts to smear Coleman.

[Cactusflower]

Well, at least you were able to find the media items, unlike others on this thread. It makes no difference which journalist wrote it; if you can't prove their reports false, why bother trying to refute them?

[rustled]

Well, at least you were able to find the media items, unlike others on this thread. It makes no difference which journalist wrote it; if you can't prove their reports false, why bother trying to refute them?

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Are you serious?

Never mind that you've presented something written by a highly biased blogger as having come from the CTV news, and speculation from a website as though it was something other than the propaganda tool of an anti-gambling lobbying group.

Never mind that even here, you refer to the people who wrote these things as "journalists".

Once again, here you are, insinuating Coleman was involved with very serious wrongdoing, with nothing to support what you're suggesting, and then saying it's up to others to prove these insinuations false.

You seem to think you can insinuate and allege whatever you like, and as long as it can't be proven false, it's ok for you to suggest that's what he has been doing. Frankly, that says a great deal about what value others should place on your posts from here on in.