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What will Horgan do with Site C?

What will John Horgan do with the Site C dam project?

He'll cancel it
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He'll allow it to be completed
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What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby Urbane » Nov 10th, 2017, 9:44 pm

Sometime between now and the end of the year John Horgan will make the call on the Site C dam project. He's already ruled out suspending it and has said that it will either be cancelled or completed. What do you think he's likely to do?

Please note: We already have a Site C thread and that's where the discussion should continue. Please use this thread only to vote in the poll. Thanks.
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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby Jlabute » Nov 11th, 2017, 10:47 am

I think the NDP are freezing BC Hydro rates as a signal that they will save consumers from higher energy costs (Fortis solar subscribers not included), indicating their plan to bring in renewables (wind/solar) is the future and will be cheaper, and site C will be cancelled.
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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby Merry » Nov 11th, 2017, 2:46 pm

I think Horgan would like to keep Site C but is delaying while he figures out a way to appease both Weaver and the NDP base.

He will only cancel if he believes proceeding will hurt his chances of re-election. So as long as the polls indicate the majority of the public are in favour, Site C has an excellent chance of being allowed to proceed.
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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby Smurf » Nov 11th, 2017, 2:55 pm

Im thinking I hope you're right Merry as I'm not real sure either way.
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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby alanjh595 » Nov 11th, 2017, 3:36 pm

If he postpones the project, he will be shooting himself in the foot and will guarantee that he is just another NDP government that will only become a one term wonder.
If he kills the project, he will not only be a "one term government", but will also kill any chance that the NDP party has of being a viable party for decades to come and will suck the Green party down the drain with him.
If he chooses to continue, he still has the option of sucking in his pride, doing what is best for BC, and never has to give the Liberals any credit for starting the project. He has the opportunity to still come out on top by making the decision to proceed for the benefit of all of BC.
His best interest, for himself. the NDP, the Greens to get a 2nd term, is to swallow his pride and allow the project to be completed.
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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby maryjane48 » Nov 11th, 2017, 7:11 pm

alanjh595 wrote:If he postpones the project, he will be shooting himself in the foot and will guarantee that he is just another NDP government that will only become a one term wonder.
If he kills the project, he will not only be a "one term government", but will also kill any chance that the NDP party has of being a viable party for decades to come and will suck the Green party down the drain with him.
If he chooses to continue, he still has the option of sucking in his pride, doing what is best for BC, and never has to give the Liberals any credit for starting the project. He has the opportunity to still come out on top by making the decision to proceed for the benefit of all of BC.
His best interest, for himself. the NDP, the Greens to get a 2nd term, is to swallow his pride and allow the project to be completed.

Hardly. Site c is a nclib make work project for party donations . If horgan allows itcto be built he wont last . If he puts bc on a real green future the bclibs will be forgotton
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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby Jlabute » Nov 11th, 2017, 7:26 pm

I hope I am wrong too. I don’t trust JH and especially the Green Party. Horgan and Weaver want to make B.C. a leader in wind and solar. A dam giving BCers power for the next 120 years would foil their plans. He’s vocal against site C but yeah, he would kill his party for many decades. Weaver with his 3 seats isn’t even worth consideration IMO.
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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby alanjh595 » Nov 11th, 2017, 7:44 pm

maryjane48 wrote:
alanjh595 wrote:If he postpones the project, he will be shooting himself in the foot and will guarantee that he is just another NDP government that will only become a one term wonder.
If he kills the project, he will not only be a "one term government", but will also kill any chance that the NDP party has of being a viable party for decades to come and will suck the Green party down the drain with him.
If he chooses to continue, he still has the option of sucking in his pride, doing what is best for BC, and never has to give the Liberals any credit for starting the project. He has the opportunity to still come out on top by making the decision to proceed for the benefit of all of BC.
His best interest, for himself. the NDP, the Greens to get a 2nd term, is to swallow his pride and allow the project to be completed.

Hardly. Site c is a nclib make work project for party donations . If horgan allows itcto be built he wont last . If he puts bc on a real green future the bclibs will be forgotton


Well then, that is YOUR guess, and that is about as good as mine.
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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby lesliepaul » Nov 11th, 2017, 8:11 pm

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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby alanjh595 » Nov 11th, 2017, 8:20 pm

maryjane48 wrote: Hardly. Site c is a nclib make work project for party donations . If horgan allows itcto be built he wont last . If he puts bc on a real green future the bclibs will be forgotton


I am having difficulty understanding your rebuttal to my opinion. In particular:

nclib and itcto

Neither of these terms/acronyms come up on Google. Perhaps you could provide further information for my research?

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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby The Green Barbarian » Nov 11th, 2017, 10:37 pm

maryjane48 wrote: If he puts bc on a real green future the bclibs will be forgotton


This has some truth. If Horgan is smart enough to approve Site C then he may have a chance, albeit small, at staying in power. If he stupidly cancels it to instead promote disgusting, expensive and stupid solar and wind power, he's toast.
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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby Queen K » Nov 11th, 2017, 10:52 pm

Urbane wrote:Sometime between now and the end of the year John Horgan will make the call on the Site C dam project. He's already ruled out suspending it and has said that it will either be cancelled or completed. What do you think he's likely to do?

Please note: We already have a Site C thread and that's where the discussion should continue. Please use this thread only to vote in the poll. Thanks.


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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby GordonH » Nov 11th, 2017, 11:22 pm

If individual homeowner want to install solar panels I say go for it.
2 problems trying to generate the same output of site c by solar.
1st) the size of the solar array needed
2nd) generation only happens during daylight

I've already mentioned issues with wind turbines.

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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby maryjane48 » Nov 12th, 2017, 12:22 pm

GordonH wrote:If individual homeowner want to install solar panels I say go for it.
2 problems trying to generate the same output of site c by solar.
1st) the size of the solar array needed
2nd) generation only happens during daylight

I've already mentioned issues with wind turbines.

Site c is going to cost 10 to 20 billion. Stoping would cost lets say 3 billion. That. Leaves around 7 to 17 billion to do it better.

Based on the 2011 census there is less than 2 million houses . So if our govt spent

12 thousand per house we could have energy freedom in bc for everyhouse
Or if. we spent half that amount on 1 million houses which is ovrr half we wre giving ourselves an extra 100 years. Based on bchydros own forcast. To give solar more time to come down in costs and for battery tech to get better . And if we get the power from columbia river we double it to 200plus years before needing extra power :130:
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Re: What will Horgan do with Site C?

Postby richardclank » Nov 12th, 2017, 12:23 pm

He'll allow it to be completed because he's BC's saviour.
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