Christy & the Hong Kong Developers
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LordEd wrote:Because you guys see a stubbed toe and scream corruption. Then the article 'proving' the stubbed toe doesn't read as described.
Why bother taking anything seriously? Time and time again your illiterate associates prove an inability to interpret or report information.
So go find a body to toss into the forum. That's all you're good for.
Brilliant post.
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"Bottom of the barrel??" That is where we were a year ago. Now we are looking to get to the top of the barrel in a very hard struggle after 16 years of corruption and influence peddling....
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Hassel99 wrote:Brilliant post.
Nor really. I'm just annoyed.
Document redacted so it must be corruption. Couldn't possibly be compliance with legal requirements of the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (FOIPPA)
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LordEd wrote:Hassel99 wrote:Brilliant post.
Nor really. I'm just annoyed.
Document redacted so it must be corruption. Couldn't possibly be compliance with legal requirements of the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (FOIPPA)
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LordEd wrote:Hassel99 wrote:Brilliant post.
Nor really. I'm just annoyed.
Document redacted so it must be corruption. Couldn't possibly be compliance with legal requirements of the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (FOIPPA)
Urbane wrote:Quite right. Those who are screaming about lack of ethics from the Liberals should look in the mirror and consider their own ethics.
What ethics are those? Haven't noted any so far.
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Is it possible that Christy and the Hong Kong developers colluded on the price of wool?
As WW3 develops, no one is going to be dissing the "preppers." What have you done?
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The narrative the NDP sycophants are trying to spin is:
A) Christy Clark did something illegal.
B) The high real estate prices in Vancouver are Christy Clark's fault
A) is just typical NDP conspiracy theory without any factual basis. The NDP chose to make a low blow personal attack campaign of inuendo and and false narratives against Christy Clark. It was disgusting. Disagreeing with policy is fair game, but low brow nonsense the BC NDP resorted is just horse puckey.
B) It is abundantly clear that provincial policy is NOT a major factor in the lower mainland real estate prices, with the exception of the ALR which creates a land shortage - but is entirely justified.
The biggest single driver of high prices and lack of affordability are the policies and directions that the City of Vancouver chose to follow. Constantly allowing developers to tear down rental accommodations and replace them with for sale condos. Violating their own 1988 policy requiring 20% social housing and allowing the social housing stock to dwindle to 8% - while spending large sums on fluff like bicycle paths. Taking 6-8 months to issue simple building permits (while Surrey was doing so in 10 days for recognized reputable builders). Many of the recent rash of policy elements loosening to create affordable options have been recommended for years, but city hall has dragged their feet on them. Who? was in charge? Mr. NDP hisself Gregor Robertson!
The second biggest driver of the lack of affordable housing? "Demovictions" Derek Corrigan, another NDP dyed in wool NDP guy. Yup, just tear down all the rental housing and built for sale condos - and at the same time disingenuously state that "social housing is not a responsibility of the city of Burnaby".
The third guy driving this mess? Malcolm Brodie - doing exactly the same things, and allowing developers to pay cash instead of building social housing - cash that never seems to go to build social housing.
IF you wanted a conspiracy theory with some real evidence, you could say that those three stooges set out to create an affordability crisis to benefit the BC NDP. Either that, or they are entirely incompetent, which may fit the bill as NDP/supporters.
Regardless, their is no question that the three stooges mayors had more policy tools and options to address affordable housing than the province - and yet they did less than nothing, in fact pursuing policies and neglecting policies that made the situation much worse. And all the while pointing the finger at the province and the feds.
Yes, the feds have a few levers through mortgage rules and interest rates, but those are very blunt instruments that also had to take into account what was happening in Calgary, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Ottawa, Montreal, Fredricton, Halifax et al. So their influence was much too "one size fits all".
The province has similar issues with "one size fits all" solutions. But not to the same extent.
In the end, metro Vancouver prices for real estate were always going to become unaffordable, as they have in every desirable metropolitan area around the world - and rentals/social housing are the answer. I find it hard to believe that the 3 stooges mayors can't see that - so I have to think they CHOSE to not see it. The three stooges and particularly the two NDP stooges, had levers to pull to slow the rapid price increases - but instead they just disingenuously howled at the province - who does not. Well, at least until NDP Gregor had his own election to face - then magically all these policy changes occured to him, and gee, maybe we should shorten building permit waits, and gee - lookie there - found an extra $50 million in the budget to build social housing.
That's where the real issue is. The malfeasance of the NDP mayors. And the porkies the BC NDP told people about being able to make housing more affordable - they can't in any meaningful way. Unless they dictate to Gregor that he stop building stupid bicycle paths and start building social housing as he should have been, and stop issuing for sale condo permits - insist on rentals.
A) Christy Clark did something illegal.
B) The high real estate prices in Vancouver are Christy Clark's fault
A) is just typical NDP conspiracy theory without any factual basis. The NDP chose to make a low blow personal attack campaign of inuendo and and false narratives against Christy Clark. It was disgusting. Disagreeing with policy is fair game, but low brow nonsense the BC NDP resorted is just horse puckey.
B) It is abundantly clear that provincial policy is NOT a major factor in the lower mainland real estate prices, with the exception of the ALR which creates a land shortage - but is entirely justified.
The biggest single driver of high prices and lack of affordability are the policies and directions that the City of Vancouver chose to follow. Constantly allowing developers to tear down rental accommodations and replace them with for sale condos. Violating their own 1988 policy requiring 20% social housing and allowing the social housing stock to dwindle to 8% - while spending large sums on fluff like bicycle paths. Taking 6-8 months to issue simple building permits (while Surrey was doing so in 10 days for recognized reputable builders). Many of the recent rash of policy elements loosening to create affordable options have been recommended for years, but city hall has dragged their feet on them. Who? was in charge? Mr. NDP hisself Gregor Robertson!
The second biggest driver of the lack of affordable housing? "Demovictions" Derek Corrigan, another NDP dyed in wool NDP guy. Yup, just tear down all the rental housing and built for sale condos - and at the same time disingenuously state that "social housing is not a responsibility of the city of Burnaby".
The third guy driving this mess? Malcolm Brodie - doing exactly the same things, and allowing developers to pay cash instead of building social housing - cash that never seems to go to build social housing.
IF you wanted a conspiracy theory with some real evidence, you could say that those three stooges set out to create an affordability crisis to benefit the BC NDP. Either that, or they are entirely incompetent, which may fit the bill as NDP/supporters.
Regardless, their is no question that the three stooges mayors had more policy tools and options to address affordable housing than the province - and yet they did less than nothing, in fact pursuing policies and neglecting policies that made the situation much worse. And all the while pointing the finger at the province and the feds.
Yes, the feds have a few levers through mortgage rules and interest rates, but those are very blunt instruments that also had to take into account what was happening in Calgary, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Ottawa, Montreal, Fredricton, Halifax et al. So their influence was much too "one size fits all".
The province has similar issues with "one size fits all" solutions. But not to the same extent.
In the end, metro Vancouver prices for real estate were always going to become unaffordable, as they have in every desirable metropolitan area around the world - and rentals/social housing are the answer. I find it hard to believe that the 3 stooges mayors can't see that - so I have to think they CHOSE to not see it. The three stooges and particularly the two NDP stooges, had levers to pull to slow the rapid price increases - but instead they just disingenuously howled at the province - who does not. Well, at least until NDP Gregor had his own election to face - then magically all these policy changes occured to him, and gee, maybe we should shorten building permit waits, and gee - lookie there - found an extra $50 million in the budget to build social housing.
That's where the real issue is. The malfeasance of the NDP mayors. And the porkies the BC NDP told people about being able to make housing more affordable - they can't in any meaningful way. Unless they dictate to Gregor that he stop building stupid bicycle paths and start building social housing as he should have been, and stop issuing for sale condo permits - insist on rentals.
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Re: Christy & the Hong Kong Developers
Queen K wrote:But the NDP are not pure as the driven snow, which is why British Columbia has actually reached a political crisis.
GB's rant in another thread summed it up beautifully. Though I would tweak it a tiny wee bit to make it less fun, er more diplomatic, Canadian style.
Which rant was that QK? I ask only because I tend to post quite a few.
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Should be interesting to how,deep the ties were that clark and bclibs had to chinas underworld . Is there anything criminal going on ? So far we dont know yet as rcmp havnt released anything in thier on going investigation into the bflibs finacial doings . Stay tuned though as at some point they will have to say something