Oil by rail can be safer

[alanjh595]

It is estimated that about 12 million barrels of oil a year are used in making the plastic bags used in the US.

An average American throws away about 10 bags a week. That’s 520 bags a year–a fuel equivalent of 60 miles of driving.

The 10 largest oil producers and share of total world oil production in 2016

The 10 largest oil consumers and share of total world oil consumption in 2015

This need is not going to go away. Let's think about when water and sewer used to come and go by truck, and now it is delivered or taken away by pipelines.
That really doesn't work anymore because nobody has a back yard to get a pump truck to to suck out the septic tank or fill a cistern. Pipelines make sense.



Edited for wrong titles on previous post. Thanks for letting me know Fluffy.

[The Green Barbarian]

Facts are pipelines have killed more people by large margin

LOL

[The Green Barbarian]

alanjh595, are you sure you have those tables labeled correctly? It looks to me like they're backwards.

Yes, they are backwards. But that didn't stop the anti-pipeliners from trying to sell it as a narrative. China uses 12 million barrels of oil a day, which is remarkably low considering their population. They burn a lot of coal.

[Urban Cowboy]

This is how safe rail is...........
https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#212402

I guess we can thank our lucky stars that this wasn't a fuel tanker train.

[maryjane48]

What about the 5000 barrels that just leaked from pipeline ? They could only recover 20 percent .

As,for green laughing facts say pipeline have killed more people in canada than rail cars with oil . I proved it

[JagXKR]

No you didn't.

[Cactusflower]

Transporting diluted bitumen by rail, pipeline or truck is unsafe. Most reasonable people know this, so why does this debate continue?

[LTD]

because theres nothing unsafe about transporting it through pipelines

[Cactusflower]

because theres nothing unsafe about transporting it through pipelines

Tell that to the residents of AB, SK, and practically every state in the US where oil pipelines are found. Oh, and don't forget Burnaby. There's an entire neighbourhood there who won't be happy with a repeat of that mess in 2007.

[The Green Barbarian]

Tell that to the residents of AB, SK, and practically every state in the US where oil pipelines are found. Oh, and don't forget Burnaby. There's an entire neighbourhood there who won't be happy with a repeat of that mess in 2007.

I'd rather do that then be the eco-lunatic who has to go to the people of Lac Megantique and try to explain why they are stupidly against pipelines. Good luck with that.

[LTD]

because theres nothing unsafe about transporting it through pipelines

Tell that to the residents of AB, SK, and practically every state in the US where oil pipelines are found. Oh, and don't forget Burnaby. There's an entire neighbourhood there who won't be happy with a repeat of that mess in 2007.

are you referring to the incident in Burnaby where a *bleep* punctured the pipeline with an excavator if so I wouldn't consider that a problem with the pipeline but feel free to keep grasping at those straws pipelines are the safest way to move oil period get over it

[Cactusflower]

Tell that to the residents of AB, SK, and practically every state in the US where oil pipelines are found. Oh, and don't forget Burnaby. There's an entire neighbourhood there who won't be happy with a repeat of that mess in 2007.

are you referring to the incident in Burnaby where a *bleep* punctured the pipeline with an excavator if so I wouldn't consider that a problem with the pipeline but feel free to keep grasping at those straws pipelines are the safest way to move oil period get over it

It matters not who was to blame; what matters is there was a devastating pipeline breach. If the pipeline wasn't there, the breach would not have happened, period. Get over it.

[alanjh595]

Tell that to the residents of AB, SK, and practically every state in the US where oil pipelines are found. Oh, and don't forget Burnaby. There's an entire neighbourhood there who won't be happy with a repeat of that mess in 2007.

are you referring to the incident in Burnaby where a *bleep* punctured the pipeline with an excavator if so I wouldn't consider that a problem with the pipeline but feel free to keep grasping at those straws pipelines are the safest way to move oil period get over it

It matters not who was to blame; what matters is there was a devastating pipeline breach. If the pipeline wasn't there, the breach would not have happened, period. Get over it.

If the backhoe wasn't there, there would be no issue either.
That's like blaming a tree for a car crash. Just like the police report says, "I swerved several times before I hit the tree".

[Cactusflower]

^^I see. Now you're saying that backhoes should be banned from operating in B.C. That makes perfect sense to the dilbit pipeline enthusiasts, I guess.

[Urban Cowboy]

Tell that to the residents of AB, SK, and practically every state in the US where oil pipelines are found. Oh, and don't forget Burnaby. There's an entire neighbourhood there who won't be happy with a repeat of that mess in 2007.

are you referring to the incident in Burnaby where a *bleep* punctured the pipeline with an excavator if so I wouldn't consider that a problem with the pipeline but feel free to keep grasping at those straws pipelines are the safest way to move oil period get over it

It matters not who was to blame; what matters is there was a devastating pipeline breach. If the pipeline wasn't there, the breach would not have happened, period. Get over it.

If the backhoe wasn't there, there would be no issue either.
That's like blaming a tree for a car crash. Just like the police report says, "I swerved several times before I hit the tree".

It's beginning to feel like a fool's errand, attempting to get points across to an audience where the lights are on but nobody's home.