Big Green vs First Nations

[Urbane]

While opponents steal the limelight, scores of pro-development First Nations groups worry they'll lose once-in-a-lifetime opportunities that could lift people out of poverty.

Full article: http://business.financialpost.com/commo ... y-projects

[Cactusflower]

^^This has been discussed at length on another thread. Why are you bringing it up again?

[rustled]

...Big Green measures its success by stopping things, which results in media exposure and increased opportunities for financial contributions...

Helin said the Great Bear Rainforest is “total fiction” invented by Tzeporah Berman, the former co-director of Greenpeace International’s Global Climate and Energy Program and co-founder of ForestEthics, who describes herself in her biography as one of the creators and lead negotiators of the Great Bear Rainforest agreement and the Canadian Boreal Forest Initiative.

Helin said chiefs with unextinguished title over the territory had never heard of such a forest and bitterly oppose the idea.

“Who the heck are these people from big cities coming into their traditional territory telling them what they can and can’t do in their traditional territory?” Helin said.

“What these trust fund babies are basically doing is parachuting into traditional territories whose people have looked after the environment for thousands of years.”

IMO, the BC Liberals blew it when they put the demands of urban environmentalists before the needs of the people who live in the area. As a society, it's time we quit pandering to smug virtue signallers who line their own pockets at the expense of the poor. It's good to see the FN bands standing up to those who have used them for their own purposes, while ignoring the consequences, for far too long.

Helin, who recently made a presentation to the standing House committee in opposition to Bill C-48: Oil Tanker Moratorium Act, introduced in May, said his group will fight it in the courts if it becomes law because it was implemented without proper consultation.

“We spent four years developing a model that would protect the land and the ocean and the First Nations are the ones that vetted it and believe that we can do it and they want to proceed,” he said. “We will never get a chance to do this again; it’s so difficult.”

The urban environmentalists are no better than colonial governments. Too busy getting what they want to recognize the consequences for the locals.

[Cactusflower]

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[The Green Barbarian]

While opponents steal the limelight, scores of pro-development First Nations groups worry they'll lose once-in-a-lifetime opportunities that could lift people out of poverty.

Full article: http://business.financialpost.com/commo ... y-projects

Thank you Urbane for posting this in its own thread. I think it's important that people see just how evil and stupid the Big Green movement is, and how much their disgusting ideology is affecting the economy, and the well-being of the FA in Canada. Some here that are trying to ride the thin line between pretending to care about the FA while also continuing to push Big Green lies are going to be forced soon to finally pick a side. You can't keep saying you are an FA supporter and yet also support the evil and disgusting Big Green "let's destroy the economy" agenda.

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[Cactusflower]

The headline of this topic should read: "First Nations vs First Nations".The indigenous population is not so different from the rest of us. We all have our opinions on various issues. Site C has pitted British Columbians against each other, be they white, yellow, brown or (dare I say it?) even green.

[hobbyguy]

In many ways the OP is microcosm of a real problem that applies to ALL of us. I actually don't like singling out FNs as something other than part of our society as a whole (while not ignoring that there are injustices to be resolved).

The "Big Green" is actually a for profit industry. In many ways the so called "green" movement has been completely co-opted by hucksters, big money, and self serving politicians. The tactics are very similar to what big tobacco used, only refined and upgraded.

Money flows from innocuous sounding places like the Tides foundation in so called "citizens groups" like LeadNow who then spew out the messages that support the pecuniary interests of the large donors. Ever notice that ALL of the paid bloggers and "citizens groups" involved ALL push solar rooftop and wind as "the answer"? The answer to what? Mention nuclear power and they all start screaming "Armageddon! The world will end! The sky is falling!" It is very profitable to be "high priests" of "green".

What is "green"? Real "green" is minimizing our impact on the planet and working toward a future that is more in harmony with nature. That means less consumption of resources. Better agricultural practices. Better animal husbandry practices. Population control. Less consumption of "stuff". More wild places set aside and left wild.

Yet what we see is a definition of "green" being pushed that is as plastic as a protestor's kayak.

[Cactusflower]

^^Paragraph #4, HG.......

[The Green Barbarian]

The headline of this topic should read: "First Nations vs First Nations".The indigenous population is not so different from the rest of us. We all have our opinions on various issues. Site C has pitted British Columbians against each other, be they white, yellow, brown or (dare I say it?) even green.

No, Big Green scumbags have pitted British Columbians against each other, with disgusting and evil lies. Pure vile lying scum.

[maryjane48]

http://www.langleytimes.com/news/video- ... n-toronto/

[Jflem1983]

^^This has been discussed at length on another thread. Why are you bringing it up again?

This is an important issue.

Maybe you have not been to the north ?
Go check out Norman Wells. Those people deserve to eat dont they? Canada has always been a resource economy.
If u r a delicate flower and can not handle that. There are some 180 other countries u could call home

[Cactusflower]

^^This has been discussed at length on another thread. Why are you bringing it up again?

This is an important issue.

Maybe you have not been to the north ?
Go check out Norman Wells. Those people deserve to eat dont they? Canada has always been a resource economy.
If u r a delicate flower and can not handle that. There are some 180 other countries u could call home

I am anything but a 'delicate flower', and I have lived in Canada my entire life. Regardless of all the injustices I see in my country every day, I don't intend to stop fighting for it. "The North" is not the only area of B.C. that is experiencing the effects of globalization, climate change, corporate greed, or any number of social problems. Perhaps you should broaden your horizons a tad.

[The Green Barbarian]

"The North" is not the only area of B.C. that is experiencing the effects of globalization, climate change, corporate greed, or any number of social problems. Perhaps you should broaden your horizons a tad.

and perhaps you should also broaden your horizons a tad, and stop reading just Das Kapital and anything written by the horrid Naomi Klein or the bonehead David Suzuki. Good grief - once again you reference "climate change". The earth is always changing. Why are you so obsessed by this? What is BC supposed to do about what the earth's climate is doing? It's like an ant shaking their fist at an elephant. This makes no sense. And "corporate greed" - spoken like a true communist. This phrase is almost as dumb as "living wage" and "fair taxation". Just sooooo stupid and such nebulous phrases used to justify insanely dumb policy.

[Cactusflower]

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