Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby LordEd » Nov 30th, 2017, 7:12 pm

Who exactly is 'everyone else'? This fictional inspection failure doesn't exist anywhere except in your mind and the sheep who take your word for it.

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Re: Stop the Blood Water

Postby Treblehook » Nov 30th, 2017, 7:39 pm

After reading LeBlanc's comment about being "open to all kinds of thoughtful suggestions", the only response I can think of to the MInister would be: "Give your head a shake man". Anyone who is capable of basic thought would have no trouble coming to the conclusion that allowing these fish farms to discharge effluent [such as they are] is high risk at best and the potential source of an disaster for wild salmon and perhaps other fish species along our coast. There have been ever increasing numbers of citizens calling for serious changes to the fish farm industry, most notably that they be moved so they are landlocked and of no risk to wild stocks. This is a serious problem on the West Coast and another perhaps even more serious problem is looming on the Atlantic coast with Northern Pulp proposing that they be permitted to discharge effluent from their pulp mill into the rich fishing grounds of the Northumberland Strait. It is anybody's guess whether these Ministers of the Federal and Provincial Governments have the intelligence and backbone to do the right thing and protect our environment.

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/212945 ... lood-water

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Re: Stop the Blood Water

Postby maryjane48 » Nov 30th, 2017, 7:45 pm

Treblehook wrote:After reading LeBlanc's comment about being "open to all kinds of thoughtful suggestions", the only response I can think of to the MInister would be: "Give your head a shake man". Anyone who is capable of basic thought would have no trouble coming to the conclusion that allowing these fish farms to discharge effluent [such as they are] is high risk at best and the potential source of an disaster for wild salmon and perhaps other fish species along our coast. There have been ever increasing numbers of citizens calling for serious changes to the fish farm industry, most notably that they be moved so they are landlocked and of no risk to wild stocks. This is a serious problem on the West Coast and another perhaps even more serious problem is looming on the Atlantic coast with Northern Pulp proposing that they be permitted to discharge effluent from their pulp mill into the rich fishing grounds of the Northumberland Strait. It is anybody's guess whether these Ministers of the Federal and Provincial Governments have the intelligence and backbone to do the right thing and protect our environment.

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/212945 ... lood-water

Well to be fair all govts in bc including ndp sre complicite . Why companys from norway were allowed in first place is kinda strange
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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby flamingfingers » Nov 30th, 2017, 7:50 pm

^^ Release of the effluent has shown it contains the piscene neovirus:

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Nicholas Johansen - Nov 30, 2017 / 5:40 pm | Story: 212945

Photo: Tavish Campbell
A screenshot from Blood Water: B.C.'s Dirty Salmon Farming Secret.
Almost 20,000 people have told the federal government they want the dumping of infectious waste from fish farms into the ocean to stop, after a film from B.C.'s coast showed what it looks like up close.

On Wednesday, Fisheries Minister Dominic LeBlanc said he's open to making changes.

The video, which has been viewed more than 77,000 times as of Thursday, showed clouds of red effluent coming out of pipes near salmon farm processing plants near Campbell River and Tofino.

Tavish Campbell, creator of the video, had the effluent tested and found piscine reovirus, a deadly disease for wild salmon.

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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby maryjane48 » Nov 30th, 2017, 8:13 pm

I wouldnt defend first nations doing this and i wont defend these companys. It just needs,to stop. Bc needs to have wild fish before anything. I personly stopped fishing as much as i love fresh fish id rather see more wild fish for future follks to come along :130:
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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby LordEd » Nov 30th, 2017, 8:17 pm

Or the surrounding water...
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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby Cactusflower » Nov 30th, 2017, 10:16 pm


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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby LordEd » Dec 1st, 2017, 7:58 am

And you rest on an article that isn't about a processing plant, or supporting your fiction of a failed inspection and bribed officials.

Might as well have posted the wookie defense.

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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby alanjh595 » Dec 1st, 2017, 8:12 am

More like a Red Herring.
A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important issue.[1] It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences towards a false conclusion. A red herring might be intentionally used, such as in mystery fiction or as part of rhetorical strategies (e.g. in politics), or it could be inadvertently used during argumentation.

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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby Treblehook » Dec 1st, 2017, 9:40 am

There is nothing misleading about the risks that fish farming in it's current form presents to wild salmon.

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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby LordEd » Dec 1st, 2017, 9:59 am

Treblehook wrote:There is nothing misleading about the risks that fish farming in it's current form presents to wild salmon.
Sure, but its extremely misleading to say that a processing plant has failed an inspection and had to bribe officials to keep operating. That is the topic here.... processing plant waste and treatment, not fish farming.
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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby Cactusflower » Dec 1st, 2017, 12:28 pm

LordEd wrote:
Treblehook wrote:There is nothing misleading about the risks that fish farming in it's current form presents to wild salmon.
Sure, but its extremely misleading to say that a processing plant has failed an inspection and had to bribe officials to keep operating. That is the topic here.... processing plant waste and treatment, not fish farming.


Most people are smart enough to know that these fish processing plants are processing farmed fish, therefore this story concerns salmon aquaculture. "Red herrings" are thrown in by people who want to deflect from the discussion, which in this case relates to the whole issue of why our federal government (the regulator) isn't stepping in to put a stop to net-pen salmon aquaculture.

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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby alanjh595 » Dec 1st, 2017, 12:54 pm

LordEd wrote:
Treblehook wrote:There is nothing misleading about the risks that fish farming in it's current form presents to wild salmon.
Sure, but its extremely misleading to say that a processing plant has failed an inspection and had to bribe officials to keep operating. That is the topic here.... processing plant waste and treatment, not fish farming.


Cactusflower wrote:Most people are smart enough to know that these fish processing plants are processing farmed fish, therefore this story concerns salmon aquaculture. "Red herrings" are thrown in by people who want to deflect from the discussion, which in this case relates to the whole issue of why our federal government (the regulator) isn't stepping in to put a stop to net-pen salmon aquaculture.


There still has been no evidence that there was a test done, proof of of a fail on that unproven test, or any bribery of officials.
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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby LordEd » Dec 1st, 2017, 1:00 pm

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Re: Fish farm processing plants contaminate ocean

Postby Fancy » Dec 1st, 2017, 2:17 pm

Cactusflower wrote:The last time this processing plant was inspected by the BC government inspectors was in 2013. They failed the inspection but were allowed to continue their operation without penalties of any kind.
You call this a red herring?
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