BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby CapitalB » Dec 7th, 2017, 11:27 am

So much of the violent push-back on everything progressive and reformist comes down to: I can see the future, and in this future I am not the centre of the universe and master of all that I survey, therefore this future must be resisted at all costs.

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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby Chyren » Dec 7th, 2017, 4:42 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rinks.html

and here's one that says the opposite....shows science is all over the place.

Simply put, don't smoke and drive.

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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby chicklo » Dec 7th, 2017, 5:33 pm

Why do ppl think legalization is going to cause a mass epidemic on the roads? If it hasn’t been a major issue for the last decade it’s not going to become one. Weed has been easily accessible and consumed for years and drivers have been high on the road. I can’t remember even hearing about weed impairment being a factor till the talk of legalization
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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby GordonH » Dec 7th, 2017, 5:39 pm

chicklo wrote:Why do ppl think legalization is going to cause a mass epidemic on the roads? If it hasn’t been a major issue for the last decade it’s not going to become one. Weed has been easily accessible and consumed for years and drivers have been high on the road. I can’t remember even hearing about weed impairment being a factor till the talk of legalization


Have a read what happened south of the border after legalization
http://vancouversun.com/health/local-he ... gton-state
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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby CapitalB » Dec 7th, 2017, 5:47 pm

Chyren wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3137943/Marijuana-DOES-impair-driving-kind-comprehensive-government-study-reveals-cannabis-use-affect-motor-skills-three-drinks.html

and here's one that says the opposite....shows science is all over the place.

Simply put, don't smoke and drive.


Thats a good article and the site has led me to some interesting information while reading through the study.

In this rigorous, double-blind, placebo-controlled study, cannabis and alcohol were significantly associated with impaired driving lateral control. Cannabis only affected SDLP; whereas alcohol affected SDLP, lane departures/min, and maximum acceleration.

In this SDLP stands for standard deviation of lane placement. It took me a bit to figure out what amount of pot they were using but it seems they had subjects vaporize low strength and high strength pot at about a half gram. I had harder times figuring out if they did this more than once as they only reference blood thc content levels after explaining intake. They also go on to mention; Cannabis-influenced drivers may attempt to drive more cautiously to compensate for impairing effects, whereas alcohol-influenced drivers often underestimate their impairment and take more risks.

So there are definitely risks in driving stoned, but it seems to be significantly less dangerous than driving under alcohols influence even around the legal limit.
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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby chicklo » Dec 7th, 2017, 5:56 pm

GordonH wrote:
chicklo wrote:Why do ppl think legalization is going to cause a mass epidemic on the roads? If it hasn’t been a major issue for the last decade it’s not going to become one. Weed has been easily accessible and consumed for years and drivers have been high on the road. I can’t remember even hearing about weed impairment being a factor till the talk of legalization


Have a read what happened south of the border after legalization
http://vancouversun.com/health/local-he ... gton-state



Interesting read. My question though if it’s such an issue why have we not gotten tools to test for impairment already? This is BC where you can easily get weed and damn near everyone smokes it. I wouldn’t be surprised if 1 in 4 BC drivers are high, maybe we can just handle our green better than the Americans.

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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby Smurf » Dec 7th, 2017, 6:18 pm

You mean just like the people who can drink 6 beer and drive like normal, just ask them LOL. Impaired is impaired.
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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby Jflem1983 » Dec 7th, 2017, 6:19 pm

Interesting read. My question though if it’s such an issue why have we not gotten tools to test for impairment already? This is BC where you can easily get weed and damn near everyone smokes it. I wouldn’t be surprised if 1 in 4 BC drivers are high, maybe we can just handle our green better than the Americans.[/quote][/quote]


Ya i drive better er er after a bunch of bong tokes. Rite on dude.
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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby Urban Cowboy » Dec 7th, 2017, 6:22 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:Interesting read. My question though if it’s such an issue why have we not gotten tools to test for impairment already? This is BC where you can easily get weed and damn near everyone smokes it. I wouldn’t be surprised if 1 in 4 BC drivers are high, maybe we can just handle our green better than the Americans.


Ya i drive better er er after a bunch of bong tokes. Rite on dude.


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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby alanjh595 » Dec 7th, 2017, 7:52 pm

MrBrocksEgo wrote:
Chyren wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3137943/Marijuana-DOES-impair-driving-kind-comprehensive-government-study-reveals-cannabis-use-affect-motor-skills-three-drinks.html

and here's one that says the opposite....shows science is all over the place.

Simply put, don't smoke and drive.


Thats a good article and the site has led me to some interesting information while reading through the study.

In this rigorous, double-blind, placebo-controlled study, cannabis and alcohol were significantly associated with impaired driving lateral control. Cannabis only affected SDLP; whereas alcohol affected SDLP, lane departures/min, and maximum acceleration.

In this SDLP stands for standard deviation of lane placement. It took me a bit to figure out what amount of pot they were using but it seems they had subjects vaporize low strength and high strength pot at about a half gram. I had harder times figuring out if they did this more than once as they only reference blood thc content levels after explaining intake. They also go on to mention; Cannabis-influenced drivers may attempt to drive more cautiously to compensate for impairing effects, whereas alcohol-influenced drivers often underestimate their impairment and take more risks.

So there are definitely risks in driving stoned, but it seems to be significantly less dangerous than driving under alcohols influence even around the legal limit.


Nobody has ever claimed that booze was better and dope was worse. SO WHAT? You want to make comparisons to Cell phone usage, or texting while driving next?
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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 8th, 2017, 9:26 am

Chyren wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3137943/Marijuana-DOES-impair-driving-kind-comprehensive-government-study-reveals-cannabis-use-affect-motor-skills-three-drinks.html

and here's one that says the opposite....shows science is all over the place.

Simply put, don't smoke and drive.

The daily mail is rightwing nonsense :smt045
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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby Chyren » Dec 11th, 2017, 5:49 pm

Again no matter how its spun, smoking weed and driving is stupid. Don't do it. Don't think about doing it. There's absolutely ZERO reason to attempt it. If you are thinking of a reason to think otherwise then you're going to be part of the problem when the solution is basic. Don't Smoke Weed and Drive. Period.

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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 11th, 2017, 6:04 pm

Chyren wrote:Again no matter how its spun, smoking weed and driving is stupid. Don't do it. Don't think about doing it. There's absolutely ZERO reason to attempt it. If you are thinking of a reason to think otherwise then you're going to be part of the problem when the solution is basic. Don't Smoke Weed and Drive. Period.

Until.bc has zero tolerance for booze then there will be an allowable limit .im all for zero tolerance but has,to be for everything including texting
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Re: BC behind in dealing with marijuana-impaired driving

Postby alanjh595 » Dec 11th, 2017, 8:12 pm

You do know that THC remains in the blood for up to 30 days, right? For chronic smokers, that would mean that they will not be legal to drive for at least 7 days after their last toke.
Whereas, even the most chronic drunk can legally pass the BAL test after 48 hours, most can do it after 24 hours. Recovery from texting is not measurable and full driving abilities are restored with 1 minute of being pulled over.
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