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Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby Cactusflower » Dec 22nd, 2017, 2:00 pm

There are many issues to address when it comes to saving our wild salmon, and this is one of them:
https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/214665 ... urt-salmon

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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby LordEd » Dec 22nd, 2017, 2:52 pm

It is the main crude product flowing through Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain pipeline from Alberta to B.C. The capacity of the pipeline is slated to triple to 900,000 barrels a day.
So its already flowing at 300,000 barrels a day today.

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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby Cactusflower » Dec 22nd, 2017, 4:07 pm

LordEd wrote:
It is the main crude product flowing through Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain pipeline from Alberta to B.C. The capacity of the pipeline is slated to triple to 900,000 barrels a day.
So its already flowing at 300,000 barrels a day today.


Thanks for proving my point. We're taking a big enough risk at 300,000 barrels a day; we sure as heck don't need to take triple the risk.
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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby Smurf » Dec 22nd, 2017, 4:16 pm

The dilbit is going to move whether there is a pipline or not. Are you saying you would sooner see it on trains and our roads.
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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby Cactusflower » Dec 22nd, 2017, 4:47 pm

Smurf wrote:The dilbit is going to move whether there is a pipline or not. Are you saying you would sooner see it on trains and our roads.


The dilbit is moving, but more dilbit will not be moving through B.C. Trump wants it to move southward. Let him have it.
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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby Smurf » Dec 22nd, 2017, 6:18 pm

So you're okay with a pipeline as long as it's not in you're backyard. Who cares about someone else's environment right.
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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby hobbyguy » Dec 22nd, 2017, 6:31 pm

The NDP angry birds will be a tweeting away about this non issue for a long time. They lost the site C decision, so now they hang on phony George's coattails with the windmill tilt at KM.

Perhaps the NDP angry birds could actually do some research... then they would find that despite thousands of tankers coming through Juan De Fuca since the boogeyman Valdez - there have been how many tanker spills in Juan De Fuca?? How many?? Please look that up and tell us that, NDP angry birds.
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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby Cactusflower » Dec 22nd, 2017, 7:08 pm

hobbyguy wrote:The NDP angry birds will be a tweeting away about this non issue for a long time. They lost the site C decision, so now they hang on phony George's coattails with the windmill tilt at KM.

Perhaps the NDP angry birds could actually do some research... then they would find that despite thousands of tankers coming through Juan De Fuca since the boogeyman Valdez - there have been how many tanker spills in Juan De Fuca?? How many?? Please look that up and tell us that, NDP angry birds.


"Angry birds".......that's a new one. If you're referring to me, I'm neither angry, nor a bird. "Bird" is a term for young women, so thanks for that undeserved compliment. And I reserve my anger for more personal matters. What government and industry does isn't worthy of such a strong emotion.

Outdoorsmen like yourself should be more concerned about the health of the fish in our streams and rivers. Everyone is aware of the leaks and spills that have occurred and continue to occur from pipelines all over North America. Even a research-challenged person like me is able to find many incidents where bitumen spills have ruined waterways. The North Saskatchewan, Red Deer, Kalamazoo, are among hundreds of other rivers that have been devastated by pipeline 'accidents'.
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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby LordEd » Dec 22nd, 2017, 9:18 pm

Cactusflower wrote:Thanks for proving my point. We're taking a big enough risk at 300,000 barrels a day; we sure as heck don't need to take triple the risk.
is it triple? The infrastructure is already there. Would it be that much harder to inspect and monitor pipeline along an existing pipeline rather than inspecting thousands of constantly moving tanker cars?

It will move one way or another.

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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby twobits » Dec 22nd, 2017, 10:56 pm

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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby Cactusflower » Dec 23rd, 2017, 12:52 pm

LordEd wrote:
Cactusflower wrote:Thanks for proving my point. We're taking a big enough risk at 300,000 barrels a day; we sure as heck don't need to take triple the risk.
is it triple? The infrastructure is already there. Would it be that much harder to inspect and monitor pipeline along an existing pipeline rather than inspecting thousands of constantly moving tanker cars?

It will move one way or another.


Yes, it is triple, and the dilbit continues to move. But we must stop KM and TM from pushing even more of it through B.C. Eastern Canada stopped the Energy East pipeline, and the people in the US midwest will stop Keystone XL as well, no matter what their loony-tunes President says.

British Columbia is no longer run by a greedy, corrupt government, and the majority of British Columbians agree with their stance against KM/TM. If you're not part of the pollution solution, you're part of the problem.

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Re: Dilbit spill could hurt salmon

Postby Gone_Fishin » Dec 23rd, 2017, 1:10 pm

Cactusflower wrote: But we must stop KM and TM


I think you should put down your petroleum-sourced keyboard. Using it seems rather hypocritical, IMO.
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