Skewed priorities

Skewed priorities

Postby twobits » Jan 10th, 2018, 7:36 pm

https://www.castanet.net/news/Business/ ... rs-rise-up

While I am more than less impressed with Tim Horton's pricing mantra that does not allow local franchise markets to react to local conditions, and even less impressed that an heiress to the founder would gouge back gains made in wages, I did take note of this statement in the posted article.

Alan Harris decided to stop his near daily pre-work Tim Hortons stop for an extra-large coffee and old-fashioned plain doughnut in Windsor, Ont. in a gesture of solidarity.
Harris works in retail and saw his pay increase to the new minimum wage this year.
"I can deeply understand what it means to live paycheque to paycheque,"


In line with the post topic, I have to really question why someone who "can deeply understand what it means to live paycheque to paycheque" feels it is normal to visit Timmies every morning for a coffee and old fashioned doughnot every day for at least a 6 buck hit with taxes?? That's at least 120 bucks a month.
Whatever happened to the auto timed coffee maker and a tray of muffins, or raisin bread, or just toast and jam for an entire week for 5 bucks?
All of which leads me to be very doubtful the guy brown bags a lunch either if he can't make coffee and toast or scramble a simple egg in the morning. Lunches every day are probably costing him 250 bucks at least a month and he wonders were his paycheque goes.
I think Alan Harris has just unwittingly increased his monthly purchasing power by about a 100 bucks a month by boycotting Timmies. But then again I doubt he is smart enough to realize that and will just switch to the McDonalds drive thru cuz that is where millennials think breakfast and lunches are made. Somewhere other than their own home.
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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby johnny24 » Jan 10th, 2018, 9:06 pm

twobits wrote:https://www.castanet.net/news/Business/215874/Timmie-s-regulars-rise-up

While I am more than less impressed with Tim Horton's pricing mantra that does not allow local franchise markets to react to local conditions, and even less impressed that an heiress to the founder would gouge back gains made in wages, I did take note of this statement in the posted article.

Alan Harris decided to stop his near daily pre-work Tim Hortons stop for an extra-large coffee and old-fashioned plain doughnut in Windsor, Ont. in a gesture of solidarity.
Harris works in retail and saw his pay increase to the new minimum wage this year.
"I can deeply understand what it means to live paycheque to paycheque,"


In line with the post topic, I have to really question why someone who "can deeply understand what it means to live paycheque to paycheque" feels it is normal to visit Timmies every morning for a coffee and old fashioned doughnot every day for at least a 6 buck hit with taxes?? That's at least 120 bucks a month.
Whatever happened to the auto timed coffee maker and a tray of muffins, or raisin bread, or just toast and jam for an entire week for 5 bucks?
All of which leads me to be very doubtful the guy brown bags a lunch either if he can't make coffee and toast or scramble a simple egg in the morning. Lunches every day are probably costing him 250 bucks at least a month and he wonders were his paycheque goes.
I think Alan Harris has just unwittingly increased his monthly purchasing power by about a 100 bucks a month by boycotting Timmies. But then again I doubt he is smart enough to realize that and will just switch to the McDonalds drive thru cuz that is where millennials think breakfast and lunches are made. Somewhere other than their own home.


So... You're mad that some stranger doesn't spend his money the same way that you would?

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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby JagXKR » Jan 11th, 2018, 12:39 am

People wonder why Canadians are so far in debt. Well this tool is a reason. No money sense at all.
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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby LordEd » Jan 11th, 2018, 7:22 am

Less sales means less need for staff. The boycott would just cost somebody hours.
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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby TreeGuy » Jan 11th, 2018, 8:25 am

I get so TIRED of people saying they live pay cheque to pay cheque. With this statement they aren’t taking responsibility for themselves.

There’s got to be a better way!

I highly recommend to all of my friends on this forum, (I’m not really sure I have friends on here, but I do get a lot of likes) an online program called YNAB. Using this program and some discipline you can turn your finances around.

We have used it with much success. We seldom have an argument about money, it’s a discussion about what’s in the budget.

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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby fluffy » Jan 11th, 2018, 8:29 am

We can question the wisdom of Mr. Harris's protest, but that doesn't negate the need for it. There used to be a time when corporate responsibility included looking after your employees, taking an interest in their welfare just as they are asked to take some responsibility for the fiscal health of the employer. It's no surprise that when you see people reduced to numbers in the expense column that they employee/employer relationship turns to something more adversarial than cooperative. For all that it's worth, I won't be spending any money at Timmies until they change their tune.
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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby LordEd » Jan 11th, 2018, 8:56 am

fluffy wrote:For all that it's worth, I won't be spending any money at Timmies until they change their tune.

As a question though, will you be willing to pay more to offset the extra expenses?

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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby johnny24 » Jan 11th, 2018, 9:04 am

JagXKR wrote:People wonder why Canadians are so far in debt. Well this tool is a reason. No money sense at all.


Or maybe he has great money sense and now has an extra $4/day to spend on something he enjoys.

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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby JagXKR » Jan 11th, 2018, 10:41 am

Maybe he has now. But it took this event in order for the light bulb to come on. Me thinks the bulb is very low wattage.
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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby TreeGuy » Jan 11th, 2018, 10:56 am

JagXKR wrote:People wonder why Canadians are so far in debt. Well this tool is a reason. No money sense at all.


johnny24 wrote: maybe he has great money sense and now has an extra $4/day to spend on something he enjoys.


Funny you chose to say it was $4 to spend on something he enjoys. I don't know this specific guys financial obligations so I am generalizing but to me that would be $4 to put towards debt pay down or investing for the future.

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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby johnny24 » Jan 11th, 2018, 11:10 am

TreeGuy wrote:
JagXKR wrote:People wonder why Canadians are so far in debt. Well this tool is a reason. No money sense at all.


johnny24 wrote: maybe he has great money sense and now has an extra $4/day to spend on something he enjoys.


Funny you chose to say it was $4 to spend on something he enjoys. I don't know this specific guys financial obligations so I am generalizing but to me that would be $4 to put towards debt pay down or investing for the future.

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Well, you obviously aren't Alan Harris. I'm sure if you put your financials out into the public, you'd get a lot of criticism on how you spent your money also (but not from me).
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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jan 11th, 2018, 12:08 pm

fluffy wrote: For all that it's worth, I won't be spending any money at Timmies until they change their tune.


I'll offset you as I am now going to be going to Timmies a lot more and hope they don't change their tune. Something millennials and others who haven't grown up yet have to learn sometime in their lives - when you introduce dramatic seismic shifts to components of your income statement, there are consequences. I realize that most millennials have never had to deal with consequences of actions before (if they got a C- in school their parents just went and yelled at the teacher and turned it into an A-) but now is as good a time as any. So time to start going to Timmies! (and it will be simply allocating purchases to Timmies that were going elsewhere before, I mean, I'm not Alan Harris).
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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby HorganIsMyHero » Jan 11th, 2018, 12:23 pm

Do people not realize it's extremely common for gift cards loaded with money for certain businesses to be given away as gifts? While the guy in question who is being bashed as an idiot here may very well be mismanaging money, it's just as likely he receives gift cards.

btw, why aren't people protesting all the other minimum wage businesses that never offered paid breaks in the first place? I've never had a paid break in my life. i didn't even know Tim Horton's offered them.

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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby CapitalB » Jan 11th, 2018, 12:30 pm

JagXKR wrote:People wonder why Canadians are so far in debt. Well this tool is a reason. No money sense at all.


Technically I think housing prices are what make canadians the most indebted in the world.
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Re: Skewed priorities

Postby johnny24 » Jan 11th, 2018, 12:35 pm

HorganIsMyHero wrote:Do people not realize it's extremely common for gift cards loaded with money for certain businesses to be given away as gifts? While the guy in question who is being bashed as an idiot here may very well be mismanaging money, it's just as likely he receives gift cards.

btw, why aren't people protesting all the other minimum wage businesses that never offered paid breaks in the first place? I've never had a paid break in my life. i didn't even know Tim Horton's offered them.


Weird. I've never had an unpaid break. I thought paid breaks was a law until I saw this story.
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