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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby Urbane » Jan 16th, 2018, 9:54 pm

    Cactusflower wrote:You are extreme denial, Urb. I can provide many more links to this scandal if you really want me to. Yap, Kim, Christy, and the others were just lucky that Bonney took the fall for the rest of them.
How about providing proof that the those you accuse of criminal activity were actually involved in criminal activity? No, of course you can't so this is yet another thread that gets derailed because you just make stuff up. As I've said before, when everything is a "crime" then nothing is a "crime." Your strategy is not only dishonest but also counterproductive.

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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby Cactusflower » Jan 16th, 2018, 10:51 pm

Urbane wrote:
    Cactusflower wrote:You are extreme denial, Urb. I can provide many more links to this scandal if you really want me to. Yap, Kim, Christy, and the others were just lucky that Bonney took the fall for the rest of them.
How about providing proof that the those you accuse of criminal activity were actually involved in criminal activity? No, of course you can't so this is yet another thread that gets derailed because you just make stuff up. As I've said before, when everything is a "crime" then nothing is a "crime." Your strategy is not only dishonest but also counterproductive.


On the contrary, it's very productive. Especially if it convinces enough people, including the BC Liberals themselves, that if they ever get another chance to get their grubby little paws on the reins of our government they had better be prepared to be squeaky clean, not dishonest and sleazier than a used car salesman like they were from 2001 to 2017.

British Columbians are watching them.
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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby Old Techie » Jan 17th, 2018, 1:28 am

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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby madmudder » Jan 17th, 2018, 4:23 am

You must be talking about your BC Liberal party eh Old Tick.
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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jan 17th, 2018, 7:31 am

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Remember who is truly to blame for this insanely stupid trade war with Alberta - all of you people who voted for the NDP in the last election. Never let it happen again.

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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby CapitalB » Jan 17th, 2018, 10:23 am

The Green Barbarian wrote:
madmudder wrote:You must be talking about your BC Liberal party eh Old Tick.


what's wrong with watching both parties? Both are crooked, especially the NDP, who are controlled by evil union puppet-masters. It's time for a third option in this province.


Did we collectively forget at some point that literally all politicians are crooked and corrupt bought out by anyone with a big enough wallet? Every single one of them is an aspiring despot with ambitions of bribery.
We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right.
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PS: I'm probably playing devils advocate.
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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jan 17th, 2018, 12:15 pm

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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jan 17th, 2018, 12:17 pm

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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby Cactusflower » Jan 18th, 2018, 4:35 pm

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news ... aw-defence

It appears that the BC Liberal Party has very deep pockets.
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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby Urbane » Jan 18th, 2018, 4:42 pm

If you see any evidence that anyone in the premier's office directed Bonney to break the law please share it with us. I see this:

“Mr. Bonney is the one who said, ‘I wish to plead guilty to this.’ Mr. Bonney is the one who read thousands of his own emails and said, ‘I realize I went astray, I went wrong.’”


It's good that Bonney owned up to his own misdeeds.
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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby flamingfingers » Jan 18th, 2018, 5:40 pm

From the link posted:

Numerous senior Liberal government officials, including cabinet ministers and members of former premier Christy Clark’s office, knew about and directed the activities of Brian Bonney in connection with the Quick Wins scandal, but wouldn’t have believed they were encouraging him to break the law, Bonney’s lawyer said Wednesday.

Ian Donaldson, a lawyer for Bonney, said that emails and other documents prove that his client reported to people in the premier’s office, including the deputy chief of staff, to people in the Liberal government caucus and to two ministers.

“All of these different people occupying senior positions in different roles in the government, I say were aware of his activities and indeed encouraged and gave him positive feedback about many of those activities,” Donaldson told Provincial Court Justice David St. Pierre. “They set directions and had expectations of him.”

Under questioning from the judge, Donaldson said that those he was referring to included Kim Haakstad, Clark’s former deputy chief of staff, as well as former cabinet ministers Harry Bloy and John Yap.



".....wouldn’t have believed they were encouraging him to break the law,"...

Suuurrre......
Why do people who fancy themselves "fiscal conservatives" not scream at hidden debt accumulated in the past dozen years? Or, do they only object to spending on social programs?

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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby Urbane » Jan 18th, 2018, 6:17 pm

Premier Clark did the right thing by asking Yap to resign his cabinet post because it was in his ministry where the problem occurred. However, there is no evidence, despite some NDP'ers suggesting otherwise, that Yap or any other elected officials were involved in illegal activity. There is no evidence that they encouraged illegal activity either.

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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby flamingfingers » Jan 18th, 2018, 6:42 pm

Yap still serves in the Cabinet

He serves on the Cabinet Committee for a Strong Economy, and the Cabinet Committee for Legislative Review. He also serves on the Select Standing Committee on Finance and Government Services, and the Special Committee to Review the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act.


But of course they "wouldn’t have believed they were encouraging him to break the law,"

But sans his positive feedback from the ministers and the premier's office, he probably would not have considered stepping over the line.

However, Bonney took the fall and the ones who encouraged his efforts are left bright and shiny.
Why do people who fancy themselves "fiscal conservatives" not scream at hidden debt accumulated in the past dozen years? Or, do they only object to spending on social programs?

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Re: BC Liberals dogged by past crimes

Postby Urbane » Jan 18th, 2018, 7:09 pm

    flamingfingers wrote:Yap still serves in the Cabinet

    He serves on the Cabinet Committee for a Strong Economy, and the Cabinet Committee for Legislative Review. He also serves on the Select Standing Committee on Finance and Government Services, and the Special Committee to Review the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act.


    But of course they "wouldn’t have believed they were encouraging him to break the law,"

    But sans his positive feedback from the ministers and the premier's office, he probably would not have considered stepping over the line.

    However, Bonney took the fall and the ones who encouraged his efforts are left bright and shiny.
Yap still serves in the cabinet?? Did he jump to the NDP? I asked you for actual evidence to back up your wild claims and you just provide speculation of the worst kind. As I've said on here previously, people seem to be able to get away with saying just about anything about politicians. It doesn't make it right though.

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