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Old Techie wrote:*removed*

Most would understand, that someone with as huge of an axe to grind, regarding Site C, as does Boon, can't be viewed as unbiased, or even credible, without question.

This character is desperate to make a mountain out of a molehill, no matter what the issue is, if he thinks there's even a glimmer of hope it could stall Site C.

So there's an abandoned well, big deal, the problem is being dealt with by capable hands. If people could handle the Deep Water Horizon fiasco, I'm sure an abandoned well on land is a piece of cake.

I'm sure there will be more things that crop up, in the course of an undertaking this big, and that's why it's good to know, that there are actual accredited experts, to handle these situations.



Cactusflower wrote:1) Ken Boon is not a reporter for the Alaska Highway News.


Perhaps not, but he is however president of the Peace Valley Land Owners Association which is what you linked to. :biggrin:

Cactusflower wrote:2) Ken Boon, having lived through this nightmare for all these years is far more qualified to comment on Site C than someone sitting at his computer 1,000 kms removed from the scene.


That feels an awful lot like the pot calling the kettle black, given the number of false, misleading, and outrageous posts, asserting how many thousands of hectares of prime agricultural land would be lost to flooding, made by someone sitting at her keyboard 1,000 kms removed from the scene, which was refuted in spectacular fashion by actual Peace River Valley locals.

Cactusflower wrote:3) [icon_lol2.gif] Using that DeepWater Horizon disaster as an example of competence is probably the most ridiculous pro-Site C comment I've ever read.


Well I'm afraid I'm not an expert on "ridiculous" Site C comments so I'll just digress.

I do however feel that if man can cap a well approximately 5000 feet down from the ocean surface, then one located on land should be simple by comparison. If someone knows otherwise please feel free to educate us all.
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) [icon_lol2.gif] Using that DeepWater Horizon disaster as an example of competence is probably the most ridiculous pro-Site C comment I've ever read.


comparing deep water Horizon to a 6000 foot abandoned gas well is like comparing an igloo to a high rise
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^^ Care to expand on your expert commentary?

I mean the deep water horizon is 5000ft below the surface of the ocean, and then drilled for a substantial depth beyond that, hence deeper than the 6000ft gas well being discussed, so are you implying this gas well is somehow more difficult to address?

Would actual physical access to the well, not be more advantageous, than say having to use remotely operated equipment under water?
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Old Techie wrote:^^ Care to expand on your expert commentary?

I mean the deep water horizon is 5000ft below the surface of the ocean, and then drilled for a substantial depth beyond that, hence deeper than the 6000ft gas well being discussed, so are you implying this gas well is somehow more difficult to address?

Would actual physical access to the well, not be more advantageous, than say having to use remotely operated equipment under water?


NO the deep well Horizon is very complex pressure from oil, The depth, The fact that it is on the water, the BOP failure, Drill rig setting on the well, the list is endless
The gas well likely has been cemented off years ago and if it needs can be redrilled and re cemented off again by any number of companies in Alberta.
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Thank you for the clarification Christopher. :up:

I agree totally.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.4554007
More millions added to the cost of this white elephant, thanks to BC Hydro and the BC government neglecting to consult with First Nations before proceeding.
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CF did you actually read the article you posted. As usual you are way off base.

Conway said while BC Hydro doesn't expect the delay to impact the completion date of Site C, the organization is "assessing the potential cost implications."

"Any increase in costs related to the work stoppage we expect be covered by the project's contingency [fund]," he said.


As has been said a million times cost changes on a project of this size are expected and planned for. Nothing here at this time, normal for huge projects that is why they have these funds
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Cactusflower wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/site-c-work-suspended-1.4554007
More millions added to the cost of this white elephant,.


What white elephant are you talking about? I don't see anything about wind farms in your story?
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Cactusflower wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/site-c-work-suspended-1.4554007
More millions added to the cost of this white elephant, thanks to BC Hydro and the BC government neglecting to consult with First Nations before proceeding.


Those that have been conned by the windy/solar hucksters and the IPP lobby are the ONLY ones that would consider site C to be a "white elephant".

Just to give you an idea of the hidden costs to silly solar and wind, which the site C opponents always always tout as the alternative:

Australia's electricity grid is hooped because of the intermittent and unreliable nature of wind and solar (yup, they got sucked down that garden path to high electricity prices).

The government of Australia has just used $6.1 billion to buy out shares in Snowy Hydro, and will spend another $4.5 billion to expand pumped hydro capacity as a measure to help offset the problems created by wind and solar IPPs...

That's $10.6 billion in indirect subsidy to the wind/solar industry, and to build facilities that will automatically be 25% higher cost than a normal hydro dam. And it will solve only part of the problem. (And never mind the $billions and $billions the Australian government spent to go windy/solar in the first place.)

Funny, that's really close to the cost of site C... and site C will have lower cost electricity...

Time drop the BC NDP LEAPer nonsense and recognize that site C is a great project.
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British Columbians are being left out in the cold as the BC Utilities Commission has rejected the BC government’s proposal to freeze hydro rates in the province. The BCUC says there is insufficient regulatory justification to approve the NDP plan.

What this means for you is a three per cent increase in rates starting on April 1st.


http://www.news1130.com/2018/03/01/bcuc ... dro-rates/
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Bigjohn69 wrote:British Columbians are being left out in the cold as the BC Utilities Commission has rejected the BC government’s proposal to freeze hydro rates in the province. The BCUC says there is insufficient regulatory justification to approve the NDP plan.

What this means for you is a three per cent increase in rates starting on April 1st.


What this means is that the NDP lied. Go Site C! Bring us cheap electricity that we need.
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Im not sure how an increase is cheaper . In most peoples reality it is more expensive .
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Bigjohn69 wrote:British Columbians are being left out in the cold as the BC Utilities Commission has rejected the BC government’s proposal to freeze hydro rates in the province. The BCUC says there is insufficient regulatory justification to approve the NDP plan.

What this means for you is a three per cent increase in rates starting on April 1st.


http://www.news1130.com/2018/03/01/bcuc ... dro-rates/

The BC NDP rashly promised a rate freeze when they ought to have known they couldn't deliver.

Sensibly, the BCUC said no dice. IMO, it's on the BC NDP to quit making foolish promises just to garner votes.

So, what does this have to do with the AG's review of Site C?
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Bigjohn69 wrote:British Columbians are being left out in the cold as the BC Utilities Commission has rejected the BC government’s proposal to freeze hydro rates in the province. The BCUC says there is insufficient regulatory justification to approve the NDP plan.

What this means for you is a three per cent increase in rates starting on April 1st.


http://www.news1130.com/2018/03/01/bcuc ... dro-rates/


3% on BC Hydro rates is somehow a big whoop? That would be what? $2.00/month - yer latte cost is going up more.
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