Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby Tony » Feb 9th, 2018, 4:09 pm

alanjh595 wrote:I am wondering if this might be a good opportunity to set-up a winery in Alberta? Just bring in the grape juice from BC and brew it there as an Alberta wine? OR even bring in the completed wine by the railcar and just bottling and labeling in Alberta? Hhhmmmm?


Wait... maybe we could build a pipeline to supply wine.....

Oh - never mind.
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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby hobbyguy » Feb 9th, 2018, 6:44 pm

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/rachel-notley-unveils-task-force-to-defend-alberta-jobs-from-bc-attack/article37929228/

"Premier Rachel Notley has unveiled a task force she says will defend Alberta jobs from B.C.'s "unconstitutional attack" on the Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion, but she wouldn't give details on exactly what the high-profile group will consider or when they will act."

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"The task force members include former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna, former deputy prime minister Anne McLellan, former Syncrude Canada president Jim Carter and legal scholar Peter Hogg."

Hmmm... two solid political heavyweights, a business leader, and a legal scholar.

Alberta will be ready, Ottawa is already getting ready. Now, just wait for goofy George and hapless Horgan to actually try to do something... down comes the hammer!
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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 9th, 2018, 8:12 pm

hobbyguy wrote:https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/rachel-notley-unveils-task-force-to-defend-alberta-jobs-from-bc-attack/article37929228/

"Premier Rachel Notley has unveiled a task force she says will defend Alberta jobs from B.C.'s "unconstitutional attack" on the Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion, but she wouldn't give details on exactly what the high-profile group will consider or when they will act."

SNIP

"The task force members include former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna, former deputy prime minister Anne McLellan, former Syncrude Canada president Jim Carter and legal scholar Peter Hogg."

Hmmm... two solid political heavyweights, a business leader, and a legal scholar.

Alberta will be ready, Ottawa is already getting ready. Now, just wait for goofy George and hapless Horgan to actually try to do something... down comes the hammer!


It's a little too early to start chortling yet, HG. All those 'former' politicians just love to get their names in the news, and a 'former' Syncrude president? What a surprise! Ooh, and a legal scholar......I'll bet Horgan's really shaking in his boots now! :biggrin:

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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby Urbane » Feb 9th, 2018, 8:35 pm

    Cactusflower wrote:
    It's a little too early to start chortling yet, HG. All those 'former' politicians just love to get their names in the news, and a 'former' Syncrude president? What a surprise! Ooh, and a legal scholar......I'll bet Horgan's really shaking in his boots now! :biggrin:
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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 9th, 2018, 9:04 pm

^^And your point is?
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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby Urbane » Feb 9th, 2018, 9:09 pm

    Cactusflower wrote:^^And your point is?
John Horgan is way out of his depth.
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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby hobbyguy » Feb 9th, 2018, 9:25 pm

Urbane wrote:
    Cactusflower wrote:^^And your point is?
John Horgan is way out of his depth.


Yes indeed, the grin is gone. Now Johnny knows how Dave (RIP) and Mikey felt when the nutbars within the BC NDP start stuff that they can't finish.
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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby bob vernon » Feb 9th, 2018, 11:00 pm

There are a few wineries in Alberta. Google them. I've been to one, Fieldstone Winery, just south of Strathmore. It makes outstanding wines based on prairie fruit. Saskatoon berry, wild black cherry which is really just a polite name for chokecherry, and variations on rhubarb, strawberry, and raspberry. They've won awards for these sweet wines.

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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby fluffy » Feb 10th, 2018, 6:47 am

Once again, the wine issue is just the current front show that the BC NDP are hoping will distract people from the real issue, that issue being that those same BC NDP are taking it upon themselves to dictate Federal policy.

Ink has already been put to paper, the job is underway. Those who physically get in the way will find themselves under arrest like those recently arrested in Burnaby and Coquitlam now finding themselves (appropriately) facing nuisance and mischief charges. Interesting that one of those arrested a couple of days ago after chaining herself to a piece of pipeline machinery in Coquitlam is listed as an Ontario resident. I wonder who's paying her rent? There is huge money at stake here, I think many of us would be surprised to see just where the currents of influence flow under the surface.
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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby dle » Feb 10th, 2018, 8:52 am

I posted this earlier on "Pipelines" but I might have posted it in the wrong thread so I better re-post it here too:



I read and re-read this letter to Castanet this morning, authored by Jerrilynn DeCock:

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#218217

I knew ZERO about pipelines before I read it and while I still know next to nothing about the matter, reading this article opened my eyes to the extent that some very good points of common sense were stated.

Because of my ignorance of the workings of pipelines, I really couldn't offer an opinion one way or the other on whether the line should be allowed or not. I do know I would never want to see our beautiful coastline waterways injured, or our natural land scourged. However, I knew I didn't like this trade war between BC and Alberta over the pipeline. I don't think it is being handled from the proper perspectives. Being the two most westerly Provinces, we are sometimes forgotten in the national scheme of things. We have to stick together and have each other's backs so we owe it to each other not to make decisions based on emotion alone. We need facts to act.

I now believe the pipeline should go ahead, provided the safeguards meet at least what Ms. DeCock has suggested for protection of our lands and waters. I think, from other articles I've read from people also educated in such matters, it is very close to being able to be done in a viable and safe way, at least the safest way possible maybe with a few tweaks here and there (remembering that there are never any guarantees for ANYTHING). I think if cooler heads from both Provinces were to hold immediate meetings with a view to moving forward, a solution would be found and everyone involved will come out a winner.

Important to note here: When it comes to the governing of BC I have been finding the Greens, with Mr. Weaver at the helm, don't really seem to listen to any point of view but their own in a very single-minded, tunnel-visioned fashion - almost like they stick their fingers in their ears. I don't think it really does their cause much good - at least in my eyes. I'm definitely for protecting our environment, but with facts, not stubbornness. I knew nothing of the Greens really either until this last election so I've been keeping an interested eye on things to see what they are really all about.

My take is this: Mr. Horgan wanted his NDP in. They decided to get into cahoots with the Greens in order for that to happen. I think there is a chance that Mr. Weaver is using that to influence Mr. Horgan's decision to unilaterally squash the pipeline. If that is the case, I believe that type of calculated political maneuver does nothing to actually explore what's best for both provinces and to actually examine all the possibilities and is NOT in the best interest of any of us.

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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby fluffy » Feb 10th, 2018, 8:58 am

dle wrote:My take is this: Mr. Horgan wanted his NDP in. They decided to get into cahoots with the Greens in order for that to happen. I think there is a chance that Mr. Weaver is using that to influence Mr. Horgan's decision to unilaterally squash the pipeline. If that is the case, I believe that type of calculated political maneuver does nothing to actually explore what's best for both provinces and to actually examine all the possibilities and is NOT in the best interest of any of us.


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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby seewood » Feb 10th, 2018, 9:04 am

How many wineries are located in NDP/Green ridings? Bet the lot of NDG twits really don't care about the ban on BC wines.
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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby Ka-El » Feb 10th, 2018, 9:09 am

dle wrote: Important to note here: When it comes to the governing of BC I have been finding the Greens, with Mr. Weaver at the helm, don't really seem to listen to any point of view but their own in a very single-minded, tunnel-visioned fashion - almost like they stick their fingers in their ears.

Yes, something they share in common with all the pipeline protestors :smt045
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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby Jflem1983 » Feb 10th, 2018, 9:15 am

So in what. 6 months of power. BC NDP. Has given the wine industry a haircut. Screwed BC Hydro. Next Horgan will jeprodize all the BC working men who have to travel to Alberta to earn a living.


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Re: Alberta pulls plug on B.C./Wine

Postby dle » Feb 10th, 2018, 9:30 am

AlienSoldier wrote:Alberta should add additional taxes to any freight moving across the BC and Alberta border as it increases emissions due to diesel fumes and is a green initiative.


Carbon taxes are already in place for trucking across the Provinces so I'm pretty sure those will be included in some way?
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