Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

Re: Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

Postby The Green Barbarian » Feb 9th, 2018, 8:12 am

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Re: Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

Postby ferri » Feb 9th, 2018, 9:29 am

Apparently some of you think this topic is in Bickering. It is not. I have the queue open and there is plenty of room for more people. :)
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Re: Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

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Re: Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

Postby Urbane » Feb 9th, 2018, 10:08 am

^^ So Bruce Ralston wants money spent on daycare instead of spending it on trying to expand markets in Asia. He must be mad at Horgan for going on that recent trade mission to Asia. The money spent there could have been spent on daycare instead.
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Re: Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 9th, 2018, 10:32 am

gman313 wrote:https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/04/27/news/bc-poured-millions-office-china-why


This is probably the best reason not to vote for Ben Stewart next Wednesday, and the best reason not to vote BC Liberal in 2021, but only the Okanagan voters will ignore these warnings. Fortunately, the Okanagan doesn't rule B.C.

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Re: Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

Postby hobbyguy » Feb 9th, 2018, 10:40 am

The trade office in China was/is part of an overall effort to diversify BC's export profile.

Have such measures been effective?

2008 BC exports to China: $1.96 billion
2011 BC exports to China: $4.8 billion
2017 BC exports to China: $6.67 billion

Sure looks like it!

Seems to me that having an ongoing and significant sales force in China makes sense. Export industry jobs tend to be higher paying quality jobs - a lot of them union jobs (mining, forestry, manufacturing). How many of those jobs were created by that $4.71 billion in additional trade? Hard to say, I couldn't find figures, but 25,000 might be reasonable guesstimate.

25,000 good paying jobs for BC residents seems a good return for the expenditure/effort.
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Re: Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

Postby George+ » Feb 9th, 2018, 10:49 am

No.

We wnt to know what NEW contracts Ben Stewart set up.

Somewhere between zero and none?
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Re: Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 9th, 2018, 10:52 am

hobbyguy wrote:The trade office in China was/is part of an overall effort to diversify BC's export profile.

Have such measures been effective?

2008 BC exports to China: $1.96 billion
2011 BC exports to China: $4.8 billion
2017 BC exports to China: $6.67 billion

Sure looks like it!

Seems to me that having an ongoing and significant sales force in China makes sense. Export industry jobs tend to be higher paying quality jobs - a lot of them union jobs (mining, forestry, manufacturing). How many of those jobs were created by that $4.71 billion in additional trade? Hard to say, I couldn't find figures, but 25,000 might be reasonable guesstimate.

25,000 good paying jobs for BC residents seems a good return for the expenditure/effort.


It won't be long until we won't need a trade office in China because there will be no import/export business. China will own B.C..........and all of Canada if Justin gets his way.
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Re: Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

Postby alanjh595 » Feb 9th, 2018, 1:58 pm

Too late. Were yo sleeping? The Chinese already own BC. Wake up and smell the coffee!

B.C.’s natural resources are being gobbled up by foreign entities at a record pace. Increasingly, those entities are controlled by governments, such as China’s, that may have motives beyond mere profits. (Return to B.C.'s Top 100 of 2011.)
Former B.C. Premier Bill Bennett said in 1979 that B.C. was not for sale. He made that famous declaration in reaction to news that Canadian Pacific Investments Ltd., the Montreal-based subsidiary of the railway company, was seeking to increase its already large ownership position to a controlling interest in MacMillan Bloedel Ltd., the province’s number one forest products company.


That was too much for Bennett. At the time, CP was already a major player in the province and gaining control of MacMillan Bloedel would make it by far the biggest, with headquarters in Central Canada. Bennett vetoed the deal using the provisions of the B.C. Forest Act, which required government approval for any transfer of forest leases from one corporation to another.


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more here:
https://www.bcbusiness.ca/china-foreign ... -resources
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Re: Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

Postby Cactusflower » Feb 9th, 2018, 3:07 pm

alanjh595 wrote:Too late. Were yo sleeping? The Chinese already own BC. Wake up and smell the coffee!

B.C.’s natural resources are being gobbled up by foreign entities at a record pace. Increasingly, those entities are controlled by governments, such as China’s, that may have motives beyond mere profits. (Return to B.C.'s Top 100 of 2011.)
Former B.C. Premier Bill Bennett said in 1979 that B.C. was not for sale. He made that famous declaration in reaction to news that Canadian Pacific Investments Ltd., the Montreal-based subsidiary of the railway company, was seeking to increase its already large ownership position to a controlling interest in MacMillan Bloedel Ltd., the province’s number one forest products company.


That was too much for Bennett. At the time, CP was already a major player in the province and gaining control of MacMillan Bloedel would make it by far the biggest, with headquarters in Central Canada. Bennett vetoed the deal using the provisions of the B.C. Forest Act, which required government approval for any transfer of forest leases from one corporation to another.


*snip*




more here:
https://www.bcbusiness.ca/china-foreign ... -resources


Thank you for that excellent link, alan. But since all but one of those acquisitions occurred during the BC Liberal reign, I'm shocked that you still think they deserve your vote.

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Re: Gov looking for wine markets in Asia ?why

Postby gordon_as » Feb 9th, 2018, 5:12 pm

All governments have had trade missions promoting BC industry , tourisim , tech , agrifoods etc. etc.
The disagreements here started when Ditzy1 said :
The only reason Horgan is promoting BC Wine in Asia is because of Alberta's ban. Its damage control, so it looks like something in the eyes of you political cheerleaders.

Truth be told ( yes I know , truth sometimes kills an otherwise good story ) , the trade mission was in early January.
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