Carnage on Coquihalla

Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby LTD » Mar 1st, 2018, 4:02 pm

[quote="Old Techie"]

Oh get off your high horse.
There's a very good likelihood that I drive far more than you do,

there would have to be a steering wheel attached to your keyboard for this to be true

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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby Urban Cowboy » Mar 1st, 2018, 4:03 pm

oldtrucker wrote:Just like Glacier said, it's not the speed limit. Unless a person has a class 1 and drives truck, their opinion ,well....
oldtechie-If a person gets their licence on a auto,they are not able to drive a 18 speed or a 15 or whatever...auto only.


I know that oldtrucker, I was simply pointing out some of the dumber aspects of how the system currently works.

Guy goes out in lower mainland, or prairies, and spends a few thousand dollars to take a course, to get Class 1 and air ticket, and can automatically drive across our mountains, despite never having any hands on training in driving mountain passes in the winter.

My examples of Class 5 automobile was simply that it seems backwards to allow people testing on automatics, to drive standards when so many have no clue how to do it, whereas if they did it the other way around and tested on standards, it makes more sense as any fool can drive an automatic.
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby GordonH » Mar 1st, 2018, 4:09 pm

GordonH wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, truckers get paid by the load.
So the more loads = more $$$..... of course they all run the risk of taking chances.

dirtybiker wrote:Try pulling off a paid by hour, home base to home base scenario that would not
be abused to no end though.

You either end up with people out there when it is not ideal,
to parked and paid when they could be rolling.

Not an easy solution.

Your right, no easy solution
When you have to start compromising yourself and your morals for the people around you, it’s probably time to change the people around you.
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby Urban Cowboy » Mar 1st, 2018, 5:55 pm

LTD wrote:
Old Techie wrote:
Oh get off your high horse.
There's a very good likelihood that I drive far more than you do,

there would have to be a steering wheel attached to your keyboard for this to be true


Instead of failing miserably at comedy, your time might be better spent brushing up on how to use the "quote" feature correctly.

Just say'n................
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby oldtrucker » Mar 1st, 2018, 6:12 pm

GordonH wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, truckers get paid by the load.
So the more loads = more $$$..... of course they all run the risk of taking chances.


By the trip flat rate. Average rounder to the coast 13 to 14 hrs, 220-300 bucks depending on who you work for ,regardless of the amount of time.
Some may view my above politically incorrect opinions as 'harsh' and may even be offended by them. Some think political correctness will be our undoing.
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby Glacier » Mar 1st, 2018, 7:47 pm

oldtrucker wrote:By the trip flat rate. Average rounder to the coast 13 to 14 hrs, 220-300 bucks depending on who you work for ,regardless of the amount of time.

Milk truck drivers are paid by the hour (thank you milk cartel for artificially inflating wages and prices within the milk industry). A friend of mine sat in Revelstoke for something like 13 hours waiting for the highway to open, and was paid the entire time.
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby oldtrucker » Mar 1st, 2018, 11:35 pm

Glacier wrote:
oldtrucker wrote:By the trip flat rate. Average rounder to the coast 13 to 14 hrs, 220-300 bucks depending on who you work for ,regardless of the amount of time.

Milk truck drivers are paid by the hour (thank you milk cartel for artificially inflating wages and prices within the milk industry). A friend of mine sat in Revelstoke for something like 13 hours waiting for the highway to open, and was paid the entire time.


Was it a tanker or finished dairy crate product? Does the company that your friend works for have Ved......in blue writing?
I used to haul finished dairy products, Kel- Van- kel and deliver to a few large retailers before the clock hit a fifteen hour day(without any delays). Paid the flat rate.
In 2004ish I had a trip to the coast that took 14 hours one way plus a 7 hour return. Long weekend ,with the lineup for the Port Mann bridge starting in Sicamous. Paid the flat rate. :dash:
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby Glacier » Mar 2nd, 2018, 12:23 am

Tanker, not finished product.
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby christopher » Mar 2nd, 2018, 6:43 am

if this keeps up escort vehicles when the road is bad maybe.
trucks with no chains hanging on the truck stopped. Trucks with no chains on when required stopped.
as far as wages go that is not the public's problem safety is the only thing that matters. Chaining up is part of truckin always
has been and always has been a sore spot get over it.
speed signs that show speed limit for road conditions with more law enforcement when road conditions are bad.
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby oldtrucker » Mar 2nd, 2018, 10:02 am

christopher wrote:as far as wages go that is not the public's problem safety is the only thing that matters.


You think I really care about public safety? I don't get paid enough to care.
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby stuphoto » Mar 2nd, 2018, 10:39 am

oldtrucker wrote: You think I really care about public safety? I don't get paid enough to care.

it is a bad day when you feel that way,

My main job is driving for a locally owned bus company, where I care very much about the people on my bus and those driving around me.

I firmly believe that trip rate should be outlawed, and the industry forced to pay hourly.

As a driver I only accept trip rate while on the ice roads, and I have never been out of a job.

By the way, I sharpened my teath hauling milk from farms to the dairy in Edmonton, and yes I got paid hourly doing that.
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby christopher » Mar 2nd, 2018, 1:48 pm

oldtrucker wrote:
christopher wrote:as far as wages go that is not the public's problem safety is the only thing that matters.

You think I really care about public safety? I don't get paid enough to care.


Good to know tell your boss, tell your insurance, tell the police. That way you can get a new job maybe selling tire chains.
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby Dizzy1 » Mar 2nd, 2018, 2:36 pm

Glacier wrote:Milk truck drivers are paid by the hour (thank you milk cartel for artificially inflating wages and prices within the milk industry). A friend of mine sat in Revelstoke for something like 13 hours waiting for the highway to open, and was paid the entire time.

As per the old adage about the milk man, guess its because of all the child support they have to pay :biggrin:
Nobody wants to hear your opinion. They just want to hear their own opinion coming out of your mouth.

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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby stuphoto » Mar 2nd, 2018, 3:23 pm

Dizzy1 wrote:As per the old adage about the milk man, guess its because of all the child support they have to pay :biggrin:

I must have always gotten the wrong routes :135:
the truth is I was too tired by the time I got home to have played around on the job. Hauling milk is one of the most demanding trucking jobs out there.

I now know why they call the long Greyhound route the Milk Run.
It's because someone picking up milk often has to stop in at several farms in just about every little town along the way. Filling a 30,000 L tanker takes several stops if it's only 800 - 2000 L per farm.
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Re: Carnage on Coquihalla

Postby oldtrucker » Mar 2nd, 2018, 4:55 pm

Good to know tell your boss, tell your insurance, tell the police. That way you can get a new job maybe selling tire chains.[/quote]

Okay,we can go tell everyone together..Just let me know where and when .
No one cares.Even my boss doesn't care.Only thing he cares about is no bent metal and fuel economy.
The insurance place has a picture of me at head office with note on it saying"he deosn't care".
The cops... now thats different.Can you hold my hand when you tell them?
Can I get a hug after all of this?
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