Washington State supports BC

[burnedatstake]

the other side of the coin is vigilance against the right when they become too complacent.

[alanjh595]

i dont do greenie arrogant confidence - i do guarantees. you know like the private sector who are phobic about outside forces and costs. By outside forces, like you mean an unelected provincial government, that have no guarantees of success when they obstruct and defy federal government?
its all about black and white spreadsheets. i say i will make this much and take it or leave it. the majority of shareholders (british columbians) demand it.
NO, the Majority of British Columbians don't demand it. Show us all where you get that information from.like how ceos and execs are guaranteed bonuses for failure - i want a guarantee that there will be no spill. How about you guarantee that, there WILL be a spill? a guaranteed contract. unfortunately for the oil companies and their US partnerships - there is precedence and spills in the past which doesnt back up the puffed chest guarantee. and they were not dealt with in such a way that there was any commitment to rectify things. Show where and what you're are basing your opinion on. Please provide the links, so that they can be fact checked by others. so like radiohead says in their song "you did this to yourself my friend - you and no one else". and there is opposition to the pipeline as a result. Reference to some obscure musical piece has no relevance to this conversation and,in fact just weakens it.

[hobbyguy]

we are not russia. or cuba. or venezuela. or any of the other nations you are afraid of. we are canadians. and we will protect what we believe in. if that is a socialist view in your eyes - remember this - they dont care what you think. you are less than a speck of dust to them. just like they felt when the liberals were in power. the tables have turned. and fair is fair.

Canadians believe in democracy. Obviouly you do not. A democratic decision was made that the TMX is in the national interest.

Neither you nor the feckless BC NDP/LEAP and the useless snollygoster George Heyman have any right to attempt to block that except through the ballot box, and the courts if there is a legal violation.

Oh ya, let's see, NDP nationally - useless. Green party nationally - useless. So I get it, you don't like what was democratically decided, so you take the Stalin approach from the far left.

You let your cards show - you defend your "beliefs", that means you don't care about the facts, the science, and the practical realities or what the rest of the country voted for.

If you don't like Canada - here's your spot: https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/22/americas/venezuela-protests-deaths/index.html, or https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/20/cuba-obama-visit-anti-castro-protesters-clash, or http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-wukan-protests-20160913-snap-story.html - come to think of it, it seems like all the far left countries are like that.... hmmmm.

The facts , the science, the practical realities simply don't support the BC NDP/LEAP positions. Those positions are based on green zealotry that excludes rationality.

Do the LEAPing BC NDP even know what science and facts are? Did you know that Canada has indeed made good progress on GHG emissions, and that industry has made greatest contribution? https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/environmental-indicators/greenhouse-gas-emissions/per-person-gross-domestic-product.html

Yup, Canada is on a balanced path, with the emissions per $1 billion GDP 33% lower than in 1990. Per capita emissions are on the downward trend, but not as strongly. Sorry, Canada is a cold country with great distances to cover - it will take some practical advances like maybe somebody making Al-ion batteries work, to make big dent in those personal emissions.

So you have nothing on your side except some "beliefs" and green anarchist propaganda.

Inslee should have kept his yap shut, but it was obvious that he got what he wanted out of the spineless and bewildered Horgan, political cover for Inslee, and $$$ for his HS speed rail dream study (which has already been studied by WSDOT and found to be too expensive to be feasible).

Can you imagine the reaction in Washington State if Notley or Moe poked their noses into Washington State's business??

[fluffy]

it isnt as good as oil in other parts. its filthy.

What makes it “filthy”?

[Walking Wounded]

What makes it “filthy”?

Misguided, uninformed opinions.

[4star60]

Those opposing the TMX may see themselves on the moral high ground but in reality they're just not being realistic as to the true nature of the game being played. When I first heard that much of the opposition to Northern Gateway was being surreptitiously funded by American oil interests I wrote it off as just another conspiracy theory but when you look at it from a distance the only direction our crude oil exports are not being blockaded in is south, where we have to sell it at a discount to compete. American oil exports, legal only since 2015, now find their biggest destinations in Canada, Mexico, and China. Go figure.

Mineral rights in Canada do not belong to the people of Canada. They are freehold... belonging to the corporation/private entity. We do not sell it a discount to anyone, we don't own it. Do you think CNOOC really cares about any of our standards? They want to ship their product back to their country, at the cost of Canadian tax payers. They don't care what the price is. People have allowed the media and the corporations to play mind games with them about selling it at discount prices. It is not our product to begin with. Why should Canadians be on the hook for private enterprise? Not even national, but international corporations...

If someone bought a mine in the furthest regions of the North, knowing the ice roads won't allow year round access... should Canadians build them a bridge so they can get their product out?

Just where do you get your info. There are some landowners that own mineral rights on very old titles, but most mineral rights belong to the Crown and entities pay to mine, drill, for those minerals.

[Bettyb]

Well the price of gas is going to set records in the lower mainland, supply and demand, but wait Washington is going to bail us out at an inflated price. Their planning on ramping up production (more tankers from Alaska down the B.C. Coast) WHAT THE $&@?

[hobbyguy]

Well the price of gas is going to set records in the lower mainland, supply and demand, but wait Washington is going to bail us out at an inflated price. Their planning on ramping up production (more tankers from Alaska down the B.C. Coast) WHAT THE $&@?

That's the game. The protestors accomplish nothing except being useful idiots for the US interests.

Canada gets hosed because the US interests fund troublemakers, and moneygrubbers (professional disturber websites that spew propaganda) and they mislead some well meaning folks.

All ok for the wealthier who can afford and virtue signal, but for the middle class struggling with mortgages and lower income folks, it is a big hit.

The BC NDP used to stand for working people, but they don't anymore. The BC NDP has been infiltrated and taken over by the LEAP green anarchists. They don't care about welders that want the pipeline jobs, low income workers that are forced to pay high gasoline prices, and the working folks of Canada that depend on the oil industry for their livelihoods.

Just what do the BC LEAP (aka NDP) really stand for? Not for Canada, that's for sure. Not for working folks. Not for the prudent who bust their butts to save and buy homes.

It is no wonder that every reasonable leader the BC NDP has ever had gotten eaten alive by the radical wings of their so called party. It is worse now, will the lunatic LEAP faction in control, fanned by Weaver's self serving games.

[Urban Cowboy]

What makes it “filthy”?

Misguided, uninformed opinions.

Misguided NDP lemmings!

[normaM]

HG wrote

"That's the game. The protestors accomplish nothing except being useful idiots for the US interests".

Last I knew KM was an American Company :) By the way their stock is down today

[hobbyguy]

HG wrote

"That's the game. The protestors accomplish nothing except being useful idiots for the US interests".

Last I knew KM was an American Company :) By the way their stock is down today

The game is capture the jobs, the profits, the government revenues within US borders. Trump wants "Energy Dominance" and exporting oil in competition to the US is NOT what he, or his cronies want. http://time.com/4839884/energy-dominance-energy-independence-donald-trump/

Kinder Morgan Canada is a publicly traded "Canadian" company (no publicly traded company any longer has a patriation). Its stock was up today on the TSX.

https://www.kindermorgancanadalimited.com/

[Urban Cowboy]

We need to educate Trump and this is a good place to start....... *removed*

[normaM]

I was on TSX when I posted my comment.. down 2 dollars

[Urban Cowboy]

I was on TSX when I posted my comment.. down 2 dollars

Says up 1.19% now.

[Chyren]

Explain or prove that the "greenies" are funded by US foundations as you claim over and over?