Washington State supports BC

[The Green Barbarian]

its filthy. .

LOL

[burnedatstake]

its filthy. .

LOL

ya. we know its filthy. you laughing that off encapsulates every single one of your apologetics to the contrary.

[Walking Wounded]

Washington state supports Washington state, they don't give a crap about BC. Aren't they lucky to have a very gullible government in BC to help them with their agenda while we get the shaft. The oil will still flow but will flow south and then overseas from Washington state. Anyone who can't see that Canada will lose big time in this situation is an idiot.

[burnedatstake]

Washington state supports Washington state, they don't give a crap about BC. Aren't they lucky to have a very gullible government in BC to help them with their agenda while we get the shaft. The oil will still flow but will flow south and then overseas from Washington state. Anyone who can't see that Canada will lose big time in this situation is an idiot.

and BC is supporting BC. which doesnt want oil catastrophes in our waterways. which has wholehearted support from washington state and those who love their waterways. the illusion is that the few oil workers per capita (or albertans) and their supporters are the majority. the bad news is that you arent. not one BCer wants an oil spill. on land or in the water. in the end these protests will put pressure on the oil conglomerates and the feds to have a real plan - and a real funded economic response for spills. airy fairy promises wont cut it. its about accountability - not the almighty dollar. i see the protesters and i dont see them succeeding in their goal to squash the pipeline. but it sure will get a lot of fine print written down in spill responses and funding and accountability of oil conglomerates. if this issue was all in back rooms and ramrodded through like a right wing government would do in secrecy - then if there was a spill it would be a disaster and the company would go bankrupt before they had to pay for it. now - those cards are off the table. just like the plug being pulled with LNG. the public wasnt going to fund it - or be on the hook for unforeseen circumstances. so the "brave" private sector had no guarantees of non culpability and they bolted like cowards.

[Walking Wounded]

Washington state supports Washington state, they don't give a crap about BC. Aren't they lucky to have a very gullible government in BC to help them with their agenda while we get the shaft. The oil will still flow but will flow south and then overseas from Washington state. Anyone who can't see that Canada will lose big time in this situation is an idiot.

and BC is supporting BC. which doesnt want oil catastrophes in our waterways. which has wholehearted support from washington state and those who love their waterways. the illusion is that the few oil workers per capita (or albertans) and their supporters are the majority. the bad news is that you arent. not one BCer wants an oil spill. on land or in the water. in the end these protests will put pressure on the oil conglomerates and the feds to have a real plan - and a real funded economic response for spills. airy fairy promises wont cut it. its about accountability - not the almighty dollar. i see the protesters and i dont see them succeeding in their goal to squash the pipeline. but it sure will get a lot of fine print written down in spill responses and funding and accountability of oil conglomerates. if this issue was all in back rooms and ramrodded through like a right wing government would do in secrecy - then if there was a spill it would be a disaster and the company would go bankrupt before they had to pay for it. now - those cards are off the table. just like the plug being pulled with LNG. the public wasnt going to fund it - or be on the hook for unforeseen circumstances. so the "brave" private sector had no guarantees of non culpability and they bolted like cowards.

Horgan and his bunch of inept cohorts are doing nothing but grandstanding for a few environuts. No legal or constitutional leg to stand on and will do nothing but cost the taxpayers in losing court battles and tanking our economy.
People that are trying to kill the KM pipeline are nothing more than brainwashed morons that can't see that if we don't build the pipeline all we are doing is sending jobs and $$$ to the USA. The oil will still be extracted, will still be shipped overseas, either from BC or Washington ports. The oil is going to flow so why shouldn't Canada make the lions share instead of the USA.

[The Green Barbarian]

ya. we know its filthy. you laughing that off encapsulates every single one of your apologetics to the contrary.

sorry, I laughed because this is just such a stupid phrase. You are just parroting moronic enviro-nut scumbag websites. All oil is "filthy". To say that one form is filthy while the other is not is the height of stupidity.

[The Green Barbarian]

and BC is supporting BC. which doesnt want oil catastrophes in our waterways. .

and there won't be one. And the only ones trying to convince us that there will be one are massive cowardly losers.

[burnedatstake]

how on earth is economic and cost analysis of one type of oil that is less polluted with particles something that the left comes up with? the term is simply from a cost/benefit ratio within the commodities realm. alberta oil has an extra step of cleaning and refining from the extraction process and natural environment it comes from. end of story.

[The Green Barbarian]

. alberta oil has an extra step of cleaning and refining from the extraction process and natural environment it comes from. end of story.

all Alberta oil eh? Interesting.

[burnedatstake]

and BC is supporting BC. which doesnt want oil catastrophes in our waterways. .

and there won't be one. And the only ones trying to convince us that there will be one are massive cowardly losers.

i dont do greenie arrogant confidence - i do guarantees. you know like the private sector who are phobic about outside forces and costs. its all about black and white spreadsheets. i say i will make this much and take it or leave it. the majority of shareholders (british columbians) demand it. like how ceos and execs are guaranteed bonuses for failure - i want a guarantee that there will be no spill. a guaranteed contract. unfortunately for the oil companies and their US partnerships - there is precedence and spills in the past which doesnt back up the puffed chest guarantee. and they were not dealt with in such a way that there was any commitment to rectify things. so like radiohead says in their song "you did this to yourself my friend - you and no one else". and there is opposition to the pipeline as a result.

[hobbyguy]

i keep seeing the absurdity of the misnomer about the value of canadian oil sands. it isnt as good as oil in other parts. its filthy. it has extra costs right out the door to even be on par with the cleaner oils around the world that can be refined almost immediately. its value is only to those who want to make a buck from it - while being subsidized by the public - so they can line their private pockets. thats it.

What a bunch of nonsense.

All oil is dirty stuff. Greased my truck yesterday, yup, my hands got dirty with refined product. Degrees of dirty are a relativism only used by the far left green anarchists to try to differentiate and separate out the oil sands.

If you want really dirty oil, how about the blood red stuff that comes out of the middle east? Wouldn't that be a better target than Canadian product? Or the dirty stuff that comes out of Venezuela where if you protest they shoot you?

Venezuela - your leftist dream state: https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/22/americas/venezuela-protests-deaths/index.html

Is that what you want for Canada? Because that's where your irrational ideological stance leads.

[The Green Barbarian]

and there is opposition to the pipeline as a result.

but that's the dumbest part of a really dumb protest. The pipeline goes or doesn't go, it stops nothing in terms of tanker traffic. Why wouldn't you want the safest and best way to transport the petroleum. Don't these old lunatics care about their grandkids at all?

[The Green Barbarian]

Is that what you want for Canada? Because that's where your irrational ideological stance leads.

Of course that's what they want. And when we get there they will blame everyone but themselves.

[burnedatstake]

we are not russia. or cuba. or venezuela. or any of the other nations you are afraid of. we are canadians. and we will protect what we believe in. if that is a socialist view in your eyes - remember this - they dont care what you think. you are less than a speck of dust to them. just like they felt when the liberals were in power. the tables have turned. and fair is fair.

[The Green Barbarian]

we are not russia. or cuba. or venezuela. .

not yet. And we must be ever vigilant to keep those like-minded individuals who put these countries in such a horrible state far from the corridors of power. The NDP and Green Party must be kept as far from power as possible. At all times.