Alberta to buy pipeline?

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Aaron Ekman

Whatever your position on pipelines, the eagerness of both PM & Ab Premier to fork public $$ over to socialize risk of a Texas-based oil company w. no direct benefit to taxpayers should concern every Canadian.

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Hope this wasn't already posted, so many threads but according to this article the Embargo would hurt AB more than BC. So maybe we should push for the embargo :/
http://business.financialpost.com/commo ... ayers-turn
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flamingfingers wrote:
Aaron Ekman

Whatever your position on pipelines, the eagerness of both PM & Ab Premier to fork public $$ over to socialize risk of a Texas-based oil company w. no direct benefit to taxpayers should concern every Canadian.

Cut corporations off welfare
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I agree. Just build the pipeline, and kick Horgan the brainless usurper out of power.
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Horgan's way out of this is keep up with his verbal declarations of opposition to the pipeline to appease the 3 greens that are keeping him in power.
Trudeau will force his hand and Horgan can still claim that his decision was overwritten by a power and authority greater than his, just like he did with Site C.
He is just doing as much as a$$ kissing to keep him in power until the next election with the hopes that just one of his dumb a$$ programs create enough voters for a second term. Which we know won't happen, because all of these socialist programs that punish the middle and higher earners and benefit the lower ones. It's the lower ones that don't even have the whereforall to get their butts to the polling stations.
Horgan is trying to encourage them by giving them bobbles and trinkets to get off their couch, come the next election day to vote for him. He is just tapping into a sector of BCers that don't usually vote.
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To crib a phrase from GB - how stupid can one possibly be?
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If Alberta wants to pay for it , and pay for all clean up costs after a spill , they are most welcome to do so IMO. The federal government paying for it with my tax dollars , well that's another story. https://ricochet.media/en/2170/kinder-m ... ing-canada . . and then there is this too . . https://www.nationalobserver.com/2018/0 ... -expansion
Kinder Morgan's people have probably come to the realization that the pipe will be empty and rusting away long before the end of it's intended lifespan. Time to unload the financial burden onto some Canadian suckers.
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After being bombarded by adds on my pc to support the foreign company pipeline across some of the most pristine BC land i am fed up. Learning that it would involve (about 400 tankers trips a year) and at risk of several rupture points in the pipe line itself in case of strong quake just to bring the oil to foreign country I say no thanks no!
This is a foreign private company, the jobs are to be had only (during construction)! No full time jobs for canadians to be had. Maintenance would be flown in from Texas where the private company is based.
Is it time for Canada to build Canadian rafinery to process crude for Canadians only????? YOU BET/ Lets hear it for CANADA First!!!!!!!.
We are bending backwards and it hurts to provide CHEAP power to foreign country
We are bending backwards to sell our softwood lumber to foreign country
We are bending backwards to please foreign country to sell them our crude for less that the United Arab Emmerates do

All the while our dollar is kept low which gives more buying power to foreign country to buy our resources that they NEED cheaply, low dollar means LESS buying power for Canadians
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goldpot501 wrote:After being bombarded by adds on my pc to support the foreign company pipeline across some of the most pristine BC land i am fed up. Learning that it would involve (about 400 tankers trips a year) and at risk of several rupture points in the pipe line itself in case of strong quake just to bring the oil to foreign country I say no thanks no!
This is a foreign private company, the jobs are to be had only (during construction)! No full time jobs for canadians to be had. Maintenance would be flown in from Texas where the private company is based.
Is it time for Canada to build Canadian rafinery to process crude for Canadians only????? YOU BET/ Lets hear it for CANADA First!!!!!!!.
We are bending backwards and it hurts to provide CHEAP power to foreign country
We are bending backwards to sell our softwood lumber to foreign country
We are bending backwards to please foreign country to sell them our crude for less that the United Arab Emmerates do

All the while our dollar is kept low which gives more buying power to foreign country to buy our resources that they NEED cheaply, low dollar means LESS buying power for Canadians


You really should do your homework before going on a rant.

If there's an earthquake that bad, for one thing it's a risk anywhere in the world, and for another if it's that bad I'm sure there will be far more pressing issues to address, than simply turning off a valve to stop oil from leaking out of a pipeline rupture. Useful things valves are.

The whole point of the pipeline, is to be able to get OUR oil to ports for shipping overseas, so that we DON'T have to sell it to a foreign country for peanuts. Do you not get that?

Do you like the social safety nets Canada provides? If you do you might wish to consider that the federal treasury requires income to provide CPP, OAS, and healthcare transfer payments to provinces.

There are well over a thousand full time high paying jobs if the pipeline gets built.

All the extra shipping traffic requires safety personnel not to mention more hands required in the port, and full time positions to look after the pipeline operations.

Before using words like pristine, you may want to also brush up on what an industrial sewer Burrard Inlet is, and I think we've discussed the matter of Vancouver and Victoria pumping sewage into the ocean on a continuing basis quite a bit already.
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Interesting note: BC used to have 6 refineries. We are down to 2, and both are in relatively weak financial situations.

Of the 4 that closed, 3 closed during the 1990s lost decade of BC NDP government.

Yet somehow the dipper supporters think magically that "we" should build more refineries? Under the schizophrenic usurper BC NDP/LEAP so called government?

Give me a break. The NDP build nothing, drive investment away, and still only know how to scream "Noooo" at investment in our province.

The only thing the BC NDP/LEAP aren't screaming "Nooo" at is the tanker terminal and pipeline in Richmond to bring in foreign refined jet fuel, so they can spend the taxpayer $$$ they stole to fly off to sunny climes for holidays at our expense - and add a huge whack of GHG emissions to the world, generated in BC. What a bunch of snollygoster hypocrites.
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hobbyguy wrote: What a bunch of snollygoster hypocrites.


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flamingfingers wrote:
Aaron Ekman

Whatever your position on pipelines, the eagerness of both PM & Ab Premier to fork public $$ over to socialize risk of a Texas-based oil company w. no direct benefit to taxpayers should concern every Canadian.

Cut corporations off welfare
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Stop protesting and invite KM to build the pipe line and no tax money will be needed. When BC had a chance for LNG protesting a 13 billon dollar investment in BC and statements from fools like don't let the door hit you in the a-- on the way out send a clear message to oil and gas companies that BC is not the place to invest. If BC is really serious about oil and gas shut down all the oil and gas work in BC LEAD THE WAY see how that go's for you.
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