Grading the NDP

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What grade would you give John Horgan and the NDP government so far?

A
12
17%
B
5
7%
C
2
3%
C-
3
4%
F
49
69%
 
Total votes: 71

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Bigjohn69 wrote:The rich crying is always amusing [icon_lol2.gif] pay up or sell .simple choice


Since when has working hard and making money been a bad thing? I don't understand this mentality.
I'm pretty broke myself but I don't have an issue with people being wealthy, it gives me motivation to try and accomplish things and get ahead in life.
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Since when has working hard and making money been a bad thing?

It’s a socialist thing.
They don’t like seeing people working hard and achieving success.
They think it’s unfair that some people get farther ahead than others. Rather than push themselves....they would prefer to drag others down to their level.

It has always been that way.
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The people who bought houses way back then for $100,000 (or less) and then watched their property appreciate to $3 MILLION did not necessarily 'work hard' to attain that wealth. They were fortunate to buy at the right time in the right place.

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    flamingfingers wrote:The people who bought houses way back then for $100,000 (or less) and then watched their property appreciate to $3 MILLION did not necessarily 'work hard' to attain that wealth. They were fortunate to buy at the right time in the right place.

    "You can have anything you want, so long as you can pay for it."

It is THEIR home though and not the government's home. They shouldn't have to move or take out a loan from the government to stay in THEIR home. It's not a fair tax and it reflects poorly on the current government.
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flamingfingers wrote:The people who bought houses way back then for $100,000 (or less) and then watched their property appreciate to $3 MILLION did not necessarily 'work hard' to attain that wealth. They were fortunate to buy at the right time in the right place.

"You can have anything you want, so long as you can pay for it."


I will agree that some were fortunate, some simply made good investments in their homes. I thought it was speculation that the government was trying to curb. This does nothing to curb speculation anymore than warning people not to buy a house because the government is going to find a new tax to throw at you to put into general revenue. Next they'll be taxing Lotto and Bingo. Heaven forbid I win the Knights of Columbus raffle and have to pay 40% on my win. We are headed for disaster with this We, the GDP, can't pay for our unbroken promises, let alone our broken ones.
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Urbane -
Has your property tax increased in the last 10 years?

By your logic, you should not have to pay increased property taxes, because it is YOUR home and not the city's.
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    flamingfingers wrote:Urbane -
    Has your property tax increased in the last 10 years?

    By your logic, you should not have to pay increased property taxes, because it is YOUR home and not the city's.
Food prices have gone up as well. Lots of other things too, including property taxes, but what we're talking about here is a special tax on top of the regular property taxes. You've told us previously that those people are going to die soon anyway (Not sure how you know that) so they might as well move. That strikes me as very mean-spirited. And you've suggested that they can take out a loan from the government or ask their kids to chip in. Again, mean-spirited. It's not a fair tax. Not at all.
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flamingfingers wrote:Urbane -
Has your property tax increased in the last 10 years?

By your logic, you should not have to pay increased property taxes, because it is YOUR home and not the city's.


Ummm... property taxes to the city go directly to services that benefit the homeowner. Not for some bunch of orange thieves to pay for their incompetently run and bankrupt so called party.

The entire idea of property taxes is that homeowners contribute to making their neighborhoods nicer, have ballparks for kids etc. It is NOT for sticky fingered BC NDP thieves to fritter away uselessly.

And no, property taxes are averaged out to a mil rate and so increases have been fairly modest, and fairly applied across all homes.

Not done out of some ideological constipation added to xenophobia and creating false hopes for the envious. But sigh, that's the BC NDP/LEAP for you - they don't appreciate hard work because they've done any, don't appreciate prudence because they are imprudent.
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^^Seems as if you and others are mean-spirited when young folks complain about house prices, rents being unaffordable, etc and yell at them "Well, then - MOVE!"

Then the multimillion dollar homeowners complain about the 'property tax affecting their lifestyle and having to dig into their retirement pension chques'.... meanwhile maintaining membership in the Arbutus Club (entry fee $65K and annual dues of $1,250). Well, maybe not all of them, but still, if they cannot afford to live where they are...MOVE!!

BTW: Whoever told you that life was fair, eh?
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flamingfingers wrote:^^Seems as if you and others are mean-spirited when young folks complain about house prices, rents being unaffordable, etc and yell at them "Well, then - MOVE!"

Then the multimillion dollar homeowners complain about the 'property tax affecting their lifestyle and having to dig into their retirement pension chques'.... meanwhile maintaining membership in the Arbutus Club (entry fee $65K and annual dues of $1,250). Well, maybe not all of them, but still, if they cannot afford to live where they are...MOVE!!

BTW: Whoever told you that life was fair, eh?


Better check on the Arbutus club, I think it was that much in 1975, and had a twenty year waiting list.
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flamingfingers wrote:^^Seems as if you and others are mean-spirited when young folks complain about house prices, rents being unaffordable, etc and yell at them "Well, then - MOVE!"

Then the multimillion dollar homeowners complain about the 'property tax affecting their lifestyle and having to dig into their retirement pension chques'.... meanwhile maintaining membership in the Arbutus Club (entry fee $65K and annual dues of $1,250). Well, maybe not all of them, but still, if they cannot afford to live where they are...MOVE!!

BTW: Whoever told you that life was fair, eh?


All you have is nonsense.

When I bought my first house people said prices were out of reach for young people. I bought at 20 years old with a single cruddy income, and interest rates 50% higher than today. I lived in shared accommodation in an old house and drove a beater car to save the money, didn't go out to bars but maybe once a month. It sucked. But I set a goal and made it happen.

You choose not to see how it works in most places where demand exceeds supply, Vienna, Singapore, London, San Francisco, Brisbane etc. The ONLY way that people get single family homes is to inherit them, unless they did the dot.com millions route or similar. 69-70% of people in New York are renters.

75-76% of people in Vienna are renters - only 6% own their own homes. https://www.wienerwohnen.at/dms/workspace/SpacesStore/419fd4ff-eb28-4c25-8e4a-0534c6c71ae1/Municipalhousing.pdf - only 12% own their own apartments. Yup, they have 40% social housing.

Pretty obvious how housing options develop in growing cities. Yet the junior varsity NDP - noVision Vancouver and demovictions Derek and his bunch of snollygosters chose not to see it - or more likely just didn't care. Vancouver and Burnaby refuse to zone additional areas for apartment buildings. Gee, what happens then? Existing affordable rental stock gets torn down and replaced with high priced condos - and not enough of them, so the price rockets both for rents and condo ownership. Never mind that both NDPers Gregor and Derek ignored social housing, which adds even more pressure to rental markets.

Sooo... what did hopeless Horgan and crew promise? "affordable housing". BS. They had no plan, never had a plan, and were just using the mess their junior varsity created to offer up an impossible and unrealistic dream of false expectations to a gullible group of young voters who grasped at that straw. Now they doing typical BC NDP/LEAP stupid stuff to try to create the appearance of doing something - when in fact they are just screwing it up even worse.

No... what is needed is social housing, lots of it, and lots of rezoning in Vancouver, Burnaby and Richmond. Then let the market supply/demand rebalance. That's almost exclusively a municipal issue, not a provincial one. It ain't hard to figure out, just do what Vienna has done...some public social housing, some public-private partnership social housing - and zone for density.

Leave everybody else alone, including other Canadains and foreign buyers and let the markets work. Which by the way, they won't with counter productive NDP rent controls and over the top "tenants rights".
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Here's another item that could help improve their grade:
British Columbia is expanding health-care coverage for people with diabetes by lifting the age restriction on insulin pumps.

The move will allow people living with insulin-dependent diabetes to better manage the chronic disease, while preventing other medical conditions like eye and kidney disease, Health Minister Adrian Dix said Tuesday.
https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/228713 ... ow-covered
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    rustled wrote:Here's another item that could help improve their grade:
    British Columbia is expanding health-care coverage for people with diabetes by lifting the age restriction on insulin pumps.

    The move will allow people living with insulin-dependent diabetes to better manage the chronic disease, while preventing other medical conditions like eye and kidney disease, Health Minister Adrian Dix said Tuesday.
    https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/228713 ... ow-covered

There are some encouraging signs on the healthcare front. It's been a dismal first year in office for this government so it's good to see some positive moves here and there.
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Urbane wrote: It's been a dismal first year in office for this government so it's good to see some positive moves here and there.


and still crickets from the 10 brain-washed sheep that gave this disgusting unelected trainwreck an "A".

I do see that Nanaimo has to have a by election now. I doubt that the NDP sheep there would ever go against the grain and vote for anyone else, but they did in 2001 in the 77-2 beat-down of the evil NDP, so we'll see if they grow a brain again.

Perhaps Canadians could launch a "GoFundMe" to raise money to get the NDP candidate to resign the night before the election, and we could finally get BC back on track and out of the hands of this horrible alliance of stupid between the Greens and NDP. End the nightmare!
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The Green Barbarian wrote:
Urbane wrote: It's been a dismal first year in office for this government so it's good to see some positive moves here and there.


and still crickets from the 10 brain-washed sheep that gave this disgusting unelected trainwreck an "A".

I do see that Nanaimo has to have a by election now. I doubt that the NDP sheep there would ever go against the grain and vote for anyone else, but they did in 2001 in the 77-2 beat-down of the evil NDP, so we'll see if they grow a brain again.

Perhaps Canadians could launch a "GoFundMe" to raise money to get the NDP candidate to resign the night before the election, and we could finally get BC back on track and out of the hands of this horrible alliance of stupid between the Greens and NDP. End the nightmare!



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