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Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal records

Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby sobrohusfat » Apr 20th, 2017, 6:44 am

BeingHuman wrote: Myself, I have no problem with border crossers showing up at our border, why? Because I have every confidence that they will be thoroughly vetted properly by our comprehensive immigration and refugee security and screening systems...



You're ok with them crossing our border through the woods?

"Refugees"?! ....fleeing the U.S. - get real


You're scary
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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby BeingHuman » Apr 20th, 2017, 6:53 am

sobrohusfat wrote:You're ok with them crossing our border through the woods?

"Refugees"?! ....fleeing the U.S. - get real


You're scary


NO, I am OK with them being met at the border by the RCMP, being picked up and processed. I am OK with any of them making it into Canada, past RCMP detection, being reported and picked up for processing. They are refugees, not "terrorists", whether they have criminal records or not! If, they have criminal records, they will likely NOT have their applications for refugee status approved... so what is there to worry about, or fear?
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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby sobrohusfat » Apr 20th, 2017, 7:08 am

BeingHuman wrote:... so what is there to worry about, or fear?


The results of La-la-land dwellers making it into positions of policy making authority.
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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby the truth » Apr 20th, 2017, 7:26 am

BeingHuman wrote:
sobrohusfat wrote:You're ok with them crossing our border through the woods?

"Refugees"?! ....fleeing the U.S. - get real


You're scary


NO, I am OK with them being met at the border by the RCMP, being picked up and processed. I am OK with any of them making it into Canada, past RCMP detection, being reported and picked up for processing. They are refugees, not "terrorists", whether they have criminal records or not! If, they have criminal records, they will likely NOT have their applications for refugee status approved... so what is there to worry about, or fear?


your way of thinking is treason imo
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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby Smurf » Apr 20th, 2017, 8:22 am

Maybe he should look into the ones that are never being caught as I'm thinking there are probably a lot.

And by the way BeingHuman my comment about the ones crossing the border possibly having some bad plans for us was totally in line with the subject. Why could the ones with criminal records not be planning something? Maybe they believe crime is easier in Canada, sentences softer, or whatever. They are already breaking the law by not coming through a proper border crossing and therefore should all be returned immediately. Not a good start to a legal life in Canada when they start off with no respect for our laws..
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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby BeingHuman » Apr 20th, 2017, 1:04 pm

Smurf wrote:Maybe he should look into the ones that are never being caught as I'm thinking there are probably a lot.

And by the way BeingHuman my comment about the ones crossing the border possibly having some bad plans for us was totally in line with the subject. Why could the ones with criminal records not be planning something? Maybe they believe crime is easier in Canada, sentences softer, or whatever. They are already breaking the law by not coming through a proper border crossing and therefore should all be returned immediately. Not a good start to a legal life in Canada when they start off with no respect for our laws..


Your's is pure speculation without a shred of evidence to back it up! Maybe it's the opposite, maybe it's the ones without criminal records that we should be most worried about? But the operative word here is "worry" or "fear"!!! It plays well when used with the subject of foreigners or refugees, doesn't it?
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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby OldIslander » Apr 20th, 2017, 2:50 pm

BeingHuman wrote:Your's is pure speculation without a shred of evidence to back it up! Maybe it's the opposite, maybe it's the ones without criminal records that we should be most worried about? But the operative word here is "worry" or "fear"!!! It plays well when used with the subject of foreigners or refugees, doesn't it?

Your post got me thinking -- how worried should we be about this?

It's hard to say how worried the feds are -- there has been no noticeable effort to convince people in the states, not to do it. And we have Mounties at popular cross-points, carrying luggage and helping with babies. I understand that anyone caught jumping the border is immediately arrested and processed -- those considered safe are released (and probably put up in motels), until their court dates. Let's hope that those with serious criminal records are detained. But at the very least, their risk is evaluated.

Bear in mind that these border jumpers are coming from the US. If they are from other countries, they would have been carefully vetted by US Immigration when they arrived in the US, so the odds of terrorists being among them are very low (unless of course, they've jumped the Mexico/USA border).

What I worry about is them abusing the system -- essentially jumping to the front of the queue -- bypassing folks who have been trying for years to get here, the legal honest way.
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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby Rider59 » Apr 20th, 2017, 4:45 pm

BeingHuman wrote:... so what is there to worry about, or fear?


How about them falling off the radar once they're in Canada and out of custody, free to roam where ever they think is a worthwhile target. Please don't reply that it won't happen just because it hasn't yet, that is so lame.

As for the rest, some of us want to protect our CANADIAN culture and not turn it into a cess pool of human homogeny.

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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby BeingHuman » Apr 20th, 2017, 5:22 pm

Rider59 wrote:
BeingHuman wrote:... so what is there to worry about, or fear?


How about them falling off the radar once they're in Canada and out of custody, free to roam where ever they think is a worthwhile target. Please don't reply that it won't happen just because it hasn't yet, that is so lame.

As for the rest, some of us want to protect our CANADIAN culture and not turn it into a cess pool of human homogeny.


You should be more afraid of moose than terrorists, moose kill far more Canadians every year than terrorists ever have.

As for protecting Canadian culture, define what Canadian Culture is. Is it this? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73 ... 4118d9.jpg

Or perhaps it is this? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/or ... 701f56.jpg

So tell us, what is CANADIAN culture?
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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby Glacier » Apr 20th, 2017, 10:49 pm

BeingHuman wrote:So tell us, what is CANADIAN culture?

Canadian culture is what a large segment of Canadians do or enjoy. That's what culture is. You're probably just trolling, and already know this, but just for fun, here some aspects of Canadian culture:

- Hockey/Hockey night in Canada.
- Accepting of LGBT rights.
- Accepting of immigrants and refugees fleeing war.
- Complaining about the weather.
- Comparing ourselves to the Americans.
- The CBC.

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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby the truth » Apr 21st, 2017, 6:46 am

Rider59 wrote:
BeingHuman wrote:... so what is there to worry about, or fear?


How about them falling off the radar once they're in Canada and out of custody, free to roam where ever they think is a worthwhile target. Please don't reply that it won't happen just because it hasn't yet, that is so lame.

As for the rest, some of us want to protect our CANADIAN culture and not turn it into a cess pool of human homogeny.


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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby ferri » Apr 21st, 2017, 9:15 am

Asylum seekers paid up to $2K US each to be smuggled into Canada, border agents allege

U.S. border patrol officers claim to have documented multiple instances where they believe Nigerian nationals were smuggled into Canada from North Dakota.

The apparent asylum seekers paid $2,000 US each and filed refugee claims after reaching Canada, according to affidavits obtained by CBC News.

The RCMP and the Canada Border Services Agency announced human smuggling charges against 43-year-old Michelle Omoruyi of Regina on Wednesday.


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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatche ... -1.4079178
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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby Barney Google » Apr 21st, 2017, 9:33 am

ferri wrote:Asylum seekers paid up to $2K US each to be smuggled into Canada, border agents allege

More here:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatche ... -1.4079178


I wont be surprized if in their defence, these folks claim that Canada's PM encouraged asylum seekers to come to

Canada and they were just helping them along. :up:
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Re: Nearly half illegal border crossers have criminal record

Postby fvkasm2x » Apr 21st, 2017, 11:22 am

Glacier wrote:
BeingHuman wrote:So tell us, what is CANADIAN culture?

Canadian culture is what a large segment of Canadians do or enjoy. That's what culture is. You're probably just trolling, and already know this, but just for fun, here some aspects of Canadian culture:

- Hockey/Hockey night in Canada.
- Accepting of LGBT rights.
- Accepting of immigrants and refugees fleeing war.
- Complaining about the weather.
- Comparing ourselves to the Americans.
- The CBC.


I'll go even more basic.

These are things that have all happened to me in the past 2 years or so, while living in Edmonton (which has a MUCH LARGER immigrant population than the Okanagan).

- Holding the door for someone when they are walking into a building at the same time for you.
- Picking something up for someone, when their hands are full, they drop something and it's obvious they are struggling
- Waving at someone to acknowledge when they let you go first or pull over so you can get by while driving in an alley, parking lot, etc...
- Following even half the required driving laws on the road
- Saying please and thank you for ANY situation
- Not telling a complete female stranger that they look like a *bleep* (this happened to someone I know, in a grocery store) based on their style of clothing

Basically most of the norms, values and manners we were taught if we were born here.

Some people say Canada has no identity or that our identity is multi-culturalism. That may or may not be true... but the ONE thing that has bound us all: Aboriginal, European, Indo, Asian, etc... is that there has always (at least in my lifetime) been a mutual respect, appreciation and understanding that people here are well mannered, polite and GOOD.

I haven't been feeling that recently. Much of the Middle Eastern and African people I've encountered have been lacking in these things. Not all, but many. They don't seem to like our lifestyle. I don't understand why they want to even be here, if we are so offensive to them
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Re: Half of Refugees Coming to Canada Are Criminals

Postby Merry » Apr 21st, 2017, 11:44 am

OldIslander wrote:Canada needs to do something about illegal border jumpers. I'd lean to arrest and speedy deportation of all them. It simply isn't fair that someone who follows the lawful (and lengthy) process of applying to immigrate to Canada, should have someone jump to the front of the queue, by simply walking across the border.

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