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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby Oxl3y » Sep 6th, 2011, 10:38 pm

WTHWYT wrote:*bump*

Former PM Ex-PM Jean Chrétien predicts NDP-Liberal merger

Possible new name = Liberal Democrats


Lol some of the politically charged posters on here would slit their wrists if this happened.
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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby RR24K » Sep 7th, 2011, 8:55 am

Oxl3y wrote:
WTHWYT wrote:*bump*

Former PM Ex-PM Jean Chrétien predicts NDP-Liberal merger

Possible new name = Liberal Democrats


Lol some of the politically charged posters on here would slit their wrists if this happened.


It would make for some interesting times in House of Commons, doubtful this would happen. Of course its not impossible.


So if it did would Liberals go further left of centre or would the NDP come closer to centre. :smt102
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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby The Green Barbarian » Sep 8th, 2011, 3:36 pm

RR24K wrote:
Oxl3y wrote:
WTHWYT wrote:*bump*

Former PM Ex-PM Jean Chrétien predicts NDP-Liberal merger

Possible new name = Liberal Democrats


Lol some of the politically charged posters on here would slit their wrists if this happened.


It would make for some interesting times in House of Commons, doubtful this would happen. Of course its not impossible.


So if it did would Liberals go further left of centre or would the NDP come closer to centre. :smt102


only hope they have of winning, so they won't do it.
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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby wthwyt » Sep 8th, 2011, 3:58 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:
RR24K wrote:
Oxl3y wrote:
WTHWYT wrote:*bump*

Former PM Ex-PM Jean Chrétien predicts NDP-Liberal merger

Possible new name = Liberal Democrats


Lol some of the politically charged posters on here would slit their wrists if this happened.


It would make for some interesting times in House of Commons, doubtful this would happen. Of course its not impossible.


So if it did would Liberals go further left of centre or would the NDP come closer to centre. :smt102


only hope they have of winning, so they won't do it.


Politicians will do everything & anything to win, I find it funny how few voters remember the BS promises once the election is over. I hate the BS don't tells us what we want to hear, tell us what we need to hear.
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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby Sn0man » Sep 8th, 2011, 11:24 pm

steven lloyd wrote:Filling Ignatieff's leadership shoes: Who will step up to head the Liberal party?
By Jordan Press, Postmedia News May 3, 2011

With Michael Ignatieff announcing his resignation Tuesday, who might be the next leader of the federal Liberal party? Here's a look at some potential contenders:

Bob Rae

The former premier of Ontario lost to Stephane Dion (as did Ignatieff) in the 2006 leadership race, and bowed out when Ignatieff took over in late 2008. His political career has spanned more than three decades and he is widely thought to have leadership aspirations.

Justin Trudeau

The 39-year-old son of former prime minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau not only held onto his seat in the Montreal riding of Papineau, he increased his margin of victory from 2008. Also thought to harbour leadership ambitions, Trudeau may still need more seasoning, and has to overcome the mixed legacy of the family name.

Dominic LeBlanc

The son of former governor general Romeo LeBlanc is the only Liberal with a seat in New Brunswick. He also declined to challenge Ignatieff in 2008, and seemed to say the right things in his victory speech Monday, calling for the Liberals to understand the message voters sent the party and begin the process of rebuilding a true centrist party.

David McGuinty

The brother of Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty has been the Liberal House leader since late last year. He's intelligent and a good communicator, put into the job to fight back against Tory House leader John Baird.

Denis Coderre

One of the few Liberals to keep their seat in Quebec, Coderre has the experience, having served in a number of opposition and cabinet positions, including Privy Council president and minister of immigration. He's also seen as a bit of a loose cannon and many think he wears some of the responsibility for the party's dismal showing in Quebec.

Scott Brison

The Nova Scotia politician will be 44 in a few days and has already run for the leadership of two parties — both unsuccessfully. He was unable to succeed Joe Clark as leader of the now defunct Progressive Conservative party, and bowed out after the first ballot in the 2006 Liberal leadership contest. Will he be back for another run this time?

Marc Garneau

The former astronaut has performed well in his critic portfolios, is an excellent organizer and has a name that appeals in both French and English Canada. Hailed as a star candidate when he joined the party, Garneau fought a tough race Monday for his Montreal-area riding and managed to pull through.

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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby steven lloyd » Sep 8th, 2011, 11:40 pm

Sn0man wrote: If Jean Cretien decided to come back out of retirement I would vote liberal.

The guy who axed the helicopter deal ?
How much money spent keeping those wrecks "in the air" ?
How many lives lost due to our Sea Kngs inability to stay "in the air" ?
How much more today to pay for inferior replacements than those we were going to buy ?
How much money lost in penalties for reneging on the agreed upon contracts ?

Sometimes governments have to spend money because it saves us spending significantly more money down the road. What's worse is that we often pay dearly for our government's lack of prudence. At the federal level this is a great example of how "saving money" cost so much more in operational capabilities, ultimate maintenance and replacement cost and loss of life. Exactly the same type of recklessness and incompetent thinking as our provincial Liberals under Campbell.

Maybe we should give Cretien the Order of BC.
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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby NAB » Nov 11th, 2011, 1:37 pm

By the time of the next election, we’ll have experienced nearly a decade of Conservative government and seen not the slightest move towards abortion restrictions, capital punishment or any other marquee item in the hidden agenda. It’s kaput, and so is the myth of Liberal exceptionalism — the idea that hypocrisy and slander and dumb arguments aren’t really so bad when they come out of Liberal mouths. They need to get over themselves, behave in a civilized manner and pitch Canadians a coherent set of bold, achievable ideas that are untainted by pandering or ancient regional neuroses. It’s not a path to certain victory, by any means, but at least it’s a way out of the gutter.


Read the article for explanation as to why the Liberals are hypocrites in this guy's view: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... hypocrisy/



...he makes some good points.
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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby Urbane » Nov 11th, 2011, 1:51 pm

I head that article earlier this morning and was going to post it on here myself. The Liberals are really lost in the wilderness right now because the Conservatives are occupying a large part of the political spectrum that the Liberals once occupied (call it the John Manley part of the spectrum) and their response has been to move to the left. Meanwhile, their hypocrisy, as pointed out in this column, is not going unnoticed. Will the Liberal Party survive? I wonder.
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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby NAB » Nov 11th, 2011, 2:02 pm

Well, at least those who constantly claimed Harper had / has a hidden agenda on such issues as death penalty, same sex marriage, abortion, etc are finding out all their worries and speculative politicing were baseless.

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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby The Green Barbarian » Nov 11th, 2011, 2:22 pm

NAB wrote:Well, at least those who constantly claimed Harper had / has a hidden agenda on such issues as death penalty, same sex marriage, abortion, etc are finding out all their worries and speculative politicing were baseless.

Nab


Nab - I would wager they always knew their worries were baseless, but were just trying to foment any excuse they could to fear-monger in favour of their own agendas. The latest fear-based mantra I've heard from countless enviro-automatons is "Harper is going to destroy the earth". When I ask "how" I get some garbled nonsense about how he is "pro pollution" etc with no real point or details - at which point I just tune out as it is obvious that the mixture of too much David Suzuki and green kool-aid has rotted the person's brain and move on.
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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby JOF585 » Nov 11th, 2011, 5:39 pm

NAB wrote:Well, at least those who constantly claimed Harper had / has a hidden agenda on such issues as death penalty, same sex marriage, abortion, etc are finding out all their worries and speculative politicing were baseless.

Nab


The dictator still has 3 1/2 years to go, no ? Just saying ....
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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby NAB » Nov 11th, 2011, 5:54 pm

I don't know about the dictator descriptor, but considering the alternatives I sincerely hope PM Harper is around in that capacity for far longer than another 3 1/2 years.

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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby steven lloyd » Nov 11th, 2011, 6:36 pm

NAB wrote:I don't know about the dictator descriptor, but considering the alternatives I sincerely hope PM Harper is around in that capacity for far longer than another 3 1/2 years. Nab

I'm not a big Harper fan, and don't agree with everything he's doing, but when I look at what's going on in the world around us and see how we're faring in this country by comparison I have to give him and his government some credit.
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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

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Re: What's next for the Liberals?

Postby The Green Barbarian » Nov 15th, 2011, 10:16 am

steven lloyd wrote:
NAB wrote:I don't know about the dictator descriptor, but considering the alternatives I sincerely hope PM Harper is around in that capacity for far longer than another 3 1/2 years. Nab

I'm not a big Harper fan, and don't agree with everything he's doing, but when I look at what's going on in the world around us and see how we're faring in this country by comparison I have to give him and his government some credit.


You give everyone what they want all of the time, and you have Greece and Italy. As long as the far-left nutbars are crying about Harper I take that as a sign that he's doing a great job. The day they start embracing him I know we are all in trouble.
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