Canada's youngest multiple killer enrols in university

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Canada's youngest multiple killer is now a Calgary university freshman who is in the final years of her sentence.

She will be free a year after graduating from the class of 2015.

The girl, who turns 18 in October, was 12 years old when she aided her 23-yearold boyfriend in the slaughter of her parents and eight-yearold brother in their Medicine Hat home in 2006.

Her identity is protected by law.

Today, the teenager is expected to appear in person inside Medicine Hat's Court of Queen's Bench as a judge reviews her progress with intensive rehabilitation.

Since she was convicted of three counts of first-degree murder in 2007, the girl has appeared at the reviews over closed-circuit television, prompting Justice Scott Brooker to demand a face-toface meeting.

During her last hearing, a case worker told the judge the girl found the return to Medicine Hat too traumatic.

The regular hearings are the only chance the public has to learn of the convicted girl's progress, as her identity and psychological reports are kept secret by youth criminal justice and privacy laws.

She has been serving an open custody sentence in a Calgary group home since 2010.

That allows her to go on escorted trips to therapy, shopping malls and banks, as a step toward gradual reintegration to society by 2016.

At age 22, she will be free. Herald sources say the girl is enrolled in Mount Royal University classes, and must report to police, who monitor her curfew and conditions.

As part of her 10-year sentence - the maximum in youth law, which included credit for time in custody at the Calgary Young Offenders Centre - she spent time in Edmonton's Alberta Hospital intensive rehabilitative custody and supervision.

In the lead-up to the murders, the girl called herself Runaway Devil online and pretended to be older than 12.

During separate trials for the same crimes, both the girl and her co-accused, 23-year-old Jeremy Allan Steinke, were found guilty of three counts of first-degree murder.

Steinke was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 25 years.

Court heard the girl's parents protested the illicit relationship between their 12-year-old daughter and the older Steinke.

The couple plotted deadly revenge through e-mails and phone conversations.

The plan for murder saw the girl's parents and eight-year-old brother stabbed to death in a surprise attack in the middle of the night.

After the murders, the pair had sex and were later seen laughing and necking at an alcohol-fuelled party down the street from the murder scene.

The next day, they were arrested sleeping with friends in a truck police found in a Leader, Sask., school parking lot.

The girl and Steinke exchanged half a dozen jailhouse love letters, in which they agreed to marry.

However, the relationship crumbled within days of the arrests when they blamed each other for the boy's murder.

Neither has admitted killing him.

During the girl's 2010 hearing, it was said she was making "significant progress" in intensive young offender rehab and earning straight A's in school during a 2010 hearing.

Court heard the girl was not considered a risk to society and she was "making great strides" academically and therapeutically.

Some members of her extended family were supportive of her progress.

Psychiatric pre-sentencing reports, which are sealed, described her in 2007 as suffering from oppositional defiance disorder and conduct disorder.

Before therapy began, the girl was said to have suffered from dependency issues, anxiety and depression, and was prone to immature problem-solving and wishful fantasies.

In 2008, the girl was reported to be gaining ground in therapy, however the Crown said then the girl's interpretation of facts surrounding the crime was "troubling."

In November 2009, the girl's closed custody was relaxed to open custody. That's when she was placed in a Calgary group home.

All outings must be approved by the Alberta Solicitor General's office.

Details of those outings are not being made public.

Medicine Hat is about 290 kilometres southeast of Calgary.

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The sick B should have rotted in jail for the rest of her life
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Oxl3y wrote:The sick B should have rotted in jail for the rest of her life


She was 12 years old.

Can I hold you accountable for "the rest of your life" for everything that you did or said when you were 12?

Think hard.
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Bagotricks wrote:
Oxl3y wrote:The sick B should have rotted in jail for the rest of her life


She was 12 years old.

Can I hold you accountable for "the rest of your life" for everything that you did or said when you were 12?

Think hard.


Tracking mud into the house, getting detention or the many other insignificant things that 12 year olds do can hardly be compared to slaughtering your entire family INCLUDING AN EIGHT YEAR OLD BOY with a knife. There is no rehabilitation in the world good enough for that she WILL hurt someone again its just a matter of time.
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Oxl3y wrote:
Bagotricks wrote:
Oxl3y wrote:The sick B should have rotted in jail for the rest of her life


She was 12 years old.

Can I hold you accountable for "the rest of your life" for everything that you did or said when you were 12?

Think hard.


Tracking mud into the house, getting detention or the many other insignificant things that 12 year olds do can hardly be compared to slaughtering your entire family INCLUDING AN EIGHT YEAR OLD BOY with a knife. There is no rehabilitation in the world good enough for that she WILL hurt someone again its just a matter of time.


I take it you still get detention, track mud into the house, throw rocks at cars and believe in Santa?

You must because apparently 12 year olds don't mature or change, and are fully aware of life and all its meanings at that stage of their life.
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Once you pay your debt to society by serving time in jail (and doing whatever else you're supposed to be doing), you supposedly are clean. And you have the right to attend university just like anyone else. In that respect, I see no reason why she should not have enrolled.
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The only thing that I am curious about is: "Who is paying for her tuition??????????" I don't that being in custody since the age of 12 that she has enough in her piggy bank. Do you get to keep any inheritance if you commit the murder????? University ain't cheap, so who is footing the bill????
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hutton wrote:The only thing that I am curious about is: "Who is paying for her tuition??????????"


Does it matter?
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hutton wrote:The only thing that I am curious about is: "Who is paying for her tuition??????????" I don't that being in custody since the age of 12 that she has enough in her piggy bank. Do you get to keep any inheritance if you commit the murder????? University ain't cheap, so who is footing the bill????


Keeping someone in jail for a year costs roughly 125,000/year.

Your concerned about a 20-30 thousand dollar tuition bill, spread out over 2-4 years, that will give this girl a bright future?

What does a year in jail teach you besides how to be jaded and how not to get raped in the shower?

Most likely its a student loan, rehab would want to teach her about personal responsibility and debts/finance ect.
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I can think of many more deserving youth going without an education, because there is no money for them. (Maybe if they off and kill their families? /sarcasm off)

Seriously, why should someone who is capable of killing in cold blood be given free tuition? Perhaps I'd feel differently if it were announced she had to pay it back within a certain time period, but as it stands the whole situation is foul.
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Lady tehMa wrote:Seriously, why should someone who is capable of killing in cold blood be given free tuition? Perhaps I'd feel differently if it were announced she had to pay it back within a certain time period, but as it stands the whole situation is foul.


Once again, I believe we're all forgetting the very principle how justice system operates. Once you suffered the punishment (jail sentence, community work, 30 whip hits, etc.), you should be treated as any other person. And have the same rights. Sure it will haunt you for the rest of your life but in the eyes of the justice system you've repaid your debt to society. So why should she be treated any differently than your daughter when it comes to say access to education or student loans?

And another thing - we're not talking about doing crack here or buying a house. She's going to school to excel in life. It should be encouraged! You might as well have a problem with her getting a job. Would you rather have her stuck at the bottom with no light in life whatsoever?
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Lady tehMa wrote:I can think of many more deserving youth going without an education, because there is no money for them. (Maybe if they off and kill their families? /sarcasm off)

Seriously, why should someone who is capable of killing in cold blood be given free tuition? Perhaps I'd feel differently if it were announced she had to pay it back within a certain time period, but as it stands the whole situation is foul.


No class.

She was 12. Maybe you would be happy if we thrust her in a cage for 10-20 years. then released her onto the streets of Vancouver without a education or training or support.

She could wander the streets, start hooking to pay for her heroin addiction that she obtained to self-medicate to forget that she was manipulated by someone twice her age to commit a horrible crime, and forget all those times she was beaten and raped in jail.

Then, you can pay out 125,000 a year to keep her in jail, and another 100 grand a year nursing her Hep C or AIDS diseases, not to mention all the disease she could spread before the justice system catches her and associated costs, and the dollar amount of all the crimes she committed.

All that because you want some sort of passive aggressive societal revenge. The idea is to keep people out of jail, not turn people into career criminals ( like ALL data proves concerning crime and punishment ) by being obtuse and vengeful.
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Social revenge? Not likely. What I am saying is there are many, many students out there who will never have a chance to have an education like that, and they have done no wrong. Yet someone who committed a heinous crime is having this handed to her - that is what I object to.
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Lady tehMa wrote:Social revenge? Not likely. What I am saying is there are many, many students out there who will never have a chance to have an education like that, and they have done no wrong. Yet someone who committed a heinous crime is having this handed to her - that is what I object to.


Where does it say this was "handed to her".

If this is part of her rehabilitation- then why would you object? This 12 year old was manipulated by a 23 year old "boy friend" to help kill her parents. She was 12 - she is as much a victim and she is a criminal here. She needs some support to have a normal life and have illustrated clearly the "crime and punishment" alternative, which would ensure her quick return to the streets and ultimately jail.

People that didn't commit murder when they were 12 can get a student loan. Anyone can.

Chances are, her tuition is paid for by her - a student loan.
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Captain Awesome wrote:Once you pay your debt to society by serving time in jail (and doing whatever else you're supposed to be doing), you supposedly are clean. And you have the right to attend university just like anyone else. In that respect, I see no reason why she should not have enrolled.


Did I misunderstand somehow? I thought this person will not have "paid her debt to society" until she is 22 years old (2015?)

Canada's youngest multiple killer is now a Calgary university freshman who is in the final years of her sentence.

She will be free a year after graduating from the class of 2015.

The girl, who turns 18 in October, ....


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