MP with the sailor mouth

[fvkasm2x]

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... .htm#67424

I find this hilariously entertaining. He's wasn't working, wasn't in a professional setting and people who follow him on Twitter CHOOSE to follow him.

That's why I have no problem with what he said or how he handled it. In fact, I might just sign up for a Twitter account solely to follow him. I find it amusing.

How about you? Offended?

[Bagotricks]

Loved it.

We need more of that on Twitter, and less of that in the House.

[Bsuds]

Loved it.

We need more of that on Twitter, and less of that in the House.

Funny, I though the House was full of Twits.

[logicalview]

NDP MP Pat Martin fell off the wagon - a head-dive from the lofty perch he set for himself in May when the self-admitted loudmouth said he would usher in a new code of civility and decorum on Parliament.

Jack must be rolling in his grave(s).

Jack Layton and his fellow 102 NDP MPs will not heckle or behave badly in the House of Commons.

(Sorry Jack, that lie didn't last very long).

Mr. Layton says Canadians sent him back to the Hill – with a much bigger team – to fix Ottawa.

Maybe you should have fixed Pat Martin first.

[Bagotricks]

NDP MP Pat Martin fell off the wagon - a head-dive from the lofty perch he set for himself in May when the self-admitted loudmouth said he would usher in a new code of civility and decorum on Parliament.

Jack must be rolling in his grave(s).

Jack Layton and his fellow 102 NDP MPs will not heckle or behave badly in the House of Commons.

(Sorry Jack, that lie didn't last very long).

Mr. Layton says Canadians sent him back to the Hill – with a much bigger team – to fix Ottawa.

Maybe you should have fixed Pat Martin first.

Wow, Twitter planted their servers in the House of Commons?

[Rwede]

Funny how all you Socialists attacked Rob Ford for his sailor-speak, yet you dance gaily over Martin's similar outburst.

I guess F-bombs from the left are somehow different from F-bombs from the right.

[Merry]

I voted Conservative in the last Federal Election (and the two before that), yet I am seriously considering changing my vote next time if the Tories continue to ride rough shod over the democratic process.

Parliament is elected by Canadians to represent ALL Canadians, not just those with Conservative views. And in order to ensure that the views of ALL Canadians are heard and considered before a decision is made, it is necessary to allow debate. Which involves being willing to listen to the views of those you don't necessarily agree with.

If the debate goes on for an inordinate period of time, or begins to go round in circles, then declaring closure may become necessary. But in most of the recent instances, it has simply been used as a tool for riding roughshod over the Opposition, and that is NOT what closure is supposed to be used for.

Holding a majority gives the Conservatives the ability to make decisions, but with it comes a responsibility to be the gatekeepers of our parliamentary process. Not the right to destroy it.

That said, I don't approve of the growing lack of civility from ANY side of the House and, while I understand the frustration that led to this most recent outburst, the point could have been made without resorting to foul language. ALL our MP's should remember that they are there to serve their country by discussing and debating issues that affect everyone, and then, AFTER LISTENING to all points of view, to make what they consider to be the decision that is in the best interest of the country as a whole.

The problem with our present form of government is that most of the time both sides have already made up their mind BEFORE listening to the other's point of view, hence the feeling that the debate is uneccessary and therefore can be cut short. If our politicians went into this with a slightly more open mind, and a willingness to at least consider why the other side feels the way they do, without name calling or other demeaning behaviour, we'd all be a lot better off.

[dandynick5]

"His language was not appropriate and could have been offensive to some," Turmel said in a written statement.

"That said, the Conservatives' actions are not appropriate in a democracy and offensive to all Canadians."

So two wrongs make a right? I agree with the poster who said that there should be less of the less than civil behaviour in the House. I don't agree that cutting short debate is running rough shod over Canadians and that it's exclusive to the Conservatives. The Liberals did it in the past and if the NDP were in power they'd do it too. All politicians are cut from the same cloth when it comes to running rough shod over us.

[Merry]

" All politicians are cut from the same cloth when it comes to running rough shod over us.

But that doesn't make it right. Discussion, debate, and a willingness to listen to the point of view of others before making a decision, is the bedrock of democracy. And we, as a society, have allowed that bedrock to be chipped away at for far too long.

It's time for Canadians, of ALL political stripes, to stand up and tell our politicians that we've had enough. If we love our country, and our way of life, we have to be prepared to fight for it. And fighting doesn't always involve wearing a uniform or carrying a gun. It can be as simple as writing a letter to our MP, or our local newspaper.

[Rwede]

" All politicians are cut from the same cloth when it comes to running rough shod over us.

But that doesn't make it right. Discussion, debate, and a willingness to listen to the point of view of others before making a decision, is the bedrock of democracy. And we, as a society, have allowed that bedrock to be chipped away at for far too long.

It's time for Canadians, of ALL political stripes, to stand up and tell our politicians that we've had enough. If we love our country, and our way of life, we have to be prepared to fight for it. And fighting doesn't always involve wearing a uniform or carrying a gun. It can be as simple as writing a letter to our MP, or our local newspaper.

Or, you could pack up and move to a country where they'd shoot you in the head for suggesting even one of the freedoms that we as Canadians enjoy. To dis the parliamentary process of the best place in the world is to fail to understand how crappy it is elsewhere.

[dandynick5]

Is filibustering okay then or is it wrong too? Having every MP in the House stand up and say why they think something is wrong gives us the illusion that MP's actually care about Canadians. I don't know off-hand what the solution is, but while lobby groups and corporations run the politicians there doesn't seem to me anyway, to be much point in believing strongly that we can stand up and fight by telling our MP or the newspaper that the government needs to listen to us. Only if enough people do it so that it threatens an MP's pension or pet bill or party(corporate) interest will they listen. I guess in that case if my interest and the MP's interest cross paths and he/she benefits by staying in pension-earning power and I get my way does it work.

[Glacier]

Politicians merely reflect the attitudes of the general population. Here is a voting ad down in Vancouver that seems to say swearing at people is an effective way to get them to vote.

I've removed the F-bomb.

[dandynick5]

Would having every NDP MP stand up and telling the government in power that they are wrong change their minds? Rarely. Debate is fine but when it gets to the point of been there, done that, then it becomes a waste of time, money and resources. Just as a filibuster is.

[dandynick5]

Politicians merely reflect the attitudes of the general population. Here is a voting ad down in Vancouver that seems to say swearing at people is an effective way to get them to vote.

I've removed the F-bomb.

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While I agree with the sentiment of the ad and have said basically the same thing myself to people, I don't know that having it on a poster is all that effective.

[albertabound]

Martin has always acted like that. He thinks because he spent all thosr years in ottawa he can act like a real idiot.